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ReunionTalk Digest messages for May 1999
Date: May 03, 1999
From: Michael
Subject: BC
Would like to know how to deal with BC dates in Renion 6. It seems
that some people give up because Reunion cannot understand BC, so have
to put dates in the "place" entry.
Michael Wolfe
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From: glennfrank
Subject: How about Reunion for the Palm Pilot?
I'm wondering if the reunion folks have ever given though to producing an
application for the 3com Pilot organizers which would interface with Reunion?
It would be awsome to be able to take a Palm organizer to a library or a
cemetary and have access to your whole family file, be able to edit or enter
new names and notes on location!
I have been thinking about getting a used powerbook for such a purpose... but
a hand held pocket item like the 3com Palm organizer sounds even better.
Just a thought
Sincerely,
Glenn Frank
Family website: http://home.earthlink.net/~glennfrank
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Date: May 03, 1999
From: sragplum
Subject: Intermittant Crashes
I've been up to my eyeballs in my family file and my website redesign and
have just gotten back to reading the Digest. I see many people are have
problems with crashes and thought I would put my 2 cents in.
I'm running a 7500 PowerMac with a Newer Tech 300MHrz G3 upgrade, 144MB
RAM, and system 8.5.1 - and on a IIci with a Sonnet 040 accelerator card
under 7.6 with 32 MB of RAM. No crashes I can blame on Reunion in either
machine, except when I don't give it enough memory on the IIci.
The crashes I DO have all seem to revolve around Netscape (Explorer isn't
any better). If its open or has been open, several strange things happen. I
usually restart when I quit out of Netscape because I know it will do it
for me if I don't. It seems to hang on to memory it doesn't need, even
after you Quit out of it and when its open, it seems to suffer from what
appear to be fragmented RAM problems.
Now given the fact that the new online manual HAS to be read with a
browser, which is being opened and closed during an given session in
Reunion... need I say more?
This instability of browser technology is my biggest reason for wishing we
had a print manual - not to mention when the machine is down its pretty
hard to consult the manual.
Sandra Ragan
Plum Grafik
http://www.sirius.com/~sragplum
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Date: May 03, 1999
From: Richard M. Leonard
Subject: more questions
#1 is there an easy way to mark a "family" all at once...? go to "family
card" xyz and then mark husband and wife and all 16 children all at once...
#2 in merging some of these datasets...I end up with person "A" who has
two sets of parents... I want to mark his ancestors to merge them... If I
select his ancestors.. and then edit his parent card to parent set "B" and
mark his second set of ancestors.... and then make sure that I find all
marked people with spouses who are unmarked (and mark them too).... How do
I get all of the siblings marked.....
#3 Some of my data sets mark women of "nobility" with a "first name" of
"Lady" as in firstname of Lady Elenor, or Lady Jane... as opposed to using
the "prefix" field for such designations... I have hand corrected some of
the entries.. very tedious, and after the Ladies, I have "Sirs" and
"Counts" etc.... is there a quick Search and Replace that will do this?
I am afraid to use the "Global" replace for fear that people who are
already corrected and have the proper "prefix" and/or "Suffix" will get
their designations screwed up.....
and also... some people entered data for surnames/first names as
follows... "Elenor De" as the first name and "Chaworth" as thelast name as
opposed to "Elenor" as the First name and "De Chaworth" as the last... I'd
like to standardize my files at least.... so the same "logic" for search
and replace should apply....
something like find all people with firstnames starting with "Lady " mark
them... replace all occurances of "Lady " in marked records with "" (a
blank datafield).... but what if (wild chance but could happen) they lived
in a place called "Lady Land" or already had a Suffix of "Lady of Spain" or
something like that.... would that get stripped out too?
For the Leister Folks....
How often do you recommend rebuilding the index of the datafile...???
is there an easy way to check for Looping? one of the datasets I brought
in had a grandfather linked as a greatgrandson or something like that...
Superchart totally blew chunks when trying to graph things.... took me
three days to find it.....
Richard M. Leonard
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Date: May 03, 1999
From: Dian Granberg
Subject: Notes
Through a GedCom file I received had a lengthy note connected to the
earliest ancester. This note repeats through his children, grandchildren
and so on. How do I keep this note with just the earliest person & not go
into all the later generations?
Dian
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Date: May 03, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Changing Child Status
On April 29, Sharon Wright <swright@xxxxx_net> wrote...
***
> I have tried to find a way to either combine the two
> descriptions I created into one description that just
> says "Stepchild" or to search and mark all children
> with the two descriptions so I can make the change.
***
You can choose Options -> Child Status and change Stepchild of Father to
Stepchild. Everyone assigned the Stepchild of Father status will now be
changed to Stepchild.
Then use Find Anything to find all the parents who have children that are
assigned the Stepchild of Mother status. Choose Find -> Anything, click the
Couples tab, and search for "# of Stepchild of Mothers, more than, 0."
Mark everyone in the Found List window and use your left and right arrow
keys to flip through the marked people.
To quickly change the child status, press the Command key and click the
appropriate child button. You can choose the Stepchild status from the
pop-up menu.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
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Date: May 03, 1999
From: Judith C. Morris
Subject: Re: Older Macs
Guess Leister could use more testimonials: I primarily use a Power Mac
7600/120 with Reunion 6.02 and have had absolutely no Reunion crashes --
ever. (Netscape Communicator is my personal party pooper.)
Judith (Judy) Cartwright Morris
jmorris@xxxxx_net
Austin, TX
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Date: May 03, 1999
From: Edgar Dohmann
Subject: Re: Reunion Crashes
I don't know if this will help anyone, but I sometimes experienced random
crashes with my G3/266 Mac running OS8.5. The crashes might be Type 1, 2,
or 25, and sometimes just out-right lockups. The applications that
crashed were random also - Word 5.1, Reunion 6.02, Photoshop, FrameMaker.
I finally figured out that the culprit was MechWarrior! My son sometimes
uses my main computer to play MechWarrior because it won't run on my old
IICi that I gave him when I bought the G3.
As best I can figure, MechWarrior must leave some trash in memory when
you exit the program that somehow or other causes a problem later on. If
I am careful to reboot the computer after he runs MechWarrior, I don't
have any of these problems. He now has strict instructions to reboot the
computer after he quits his program so I don't have to go ask him if he
used it that day.
Just a thought, but if you or anyone else are running games on your
computer, I would recommend a reboot afterward before running Reunion or
any other serious application. Game programs are notorious for not
following established programming conventions.
Edgar Dohmann
edohmann@xxxxxxxxxxx_com
www.ortech-engr.com/users/dohmann
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Date: May 03, 1999
From: P.J. van der Haak
Subject: Subsorting in Marriage Calendars
April 30th, Frans van Bodegom wrote:
***
> I tried a lot of tricks (exporting to wordprocessor, trying to split the
> dates, because the Mac does not recognise dates before 1904 as a
> datefield, importing in spreadsheets, databases etc.) but nothing could
> give a sufficient result.
***
However, exporting to FileMaker Pro does the trick. Subsorting works,
including dates before 1904, and calculation of weekdays. Frans phoned me to
tell that FileMaker was about the only database he hadn't tried.
Pieter J. van derHaak
Diemen
Netherlands
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Date: May 04, 1999
From: Teri Pettit
Subject: Accidentally changing Home card
Is there something that one might tend to do accidentally that can set the home card to the current card?
The only way that I know of to set the home card is to go through Options > Startup.. > [Use Current Family] [Save], which needless to say is not something one would do without noticing.
Yet every now and then I find that my home card has gone from being my regular home card to some other family that I've been editing recently. So I figure there must be some "shortcut" that I've been hitting accidentally. If I knew what it was, maybe I could be more careful to avoid it.
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Date: May 04, 1999
From: sragplum
Subject: Congrates+
Happy Anniversary guys. You do good work.
A reminder that there are tech answers to questions about scanners,
resolution, and PhotoCD on my website.
Is there a way to control the type styles of dates in exported web pages
separately from the individual's names? Bold dates after the names are
ugly and they cause the lines to break unevenly. I would really like to
have them always behave as a subhead.
Put me on the list to second the ability to use my Palm III to make notes
on family stuff and someday sync it to Reunion. Right now I'm trying to
get it to interface with MSOffice running in Win95 in RealPC. 3Com says
they don't support RealPC. Any of you have suggestions?
Sandra Ragan
Plum Grafik
http://www.sirius.com/~sragplum
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Date: May 04, 1999
From: Teri Pettit
Subject: Re: Accidentally changing Home card
On 4 May 1999, Teri Pettit <pettit@xxxxx_COM> observed:
***
> Every now and then I find that my home card has gone
> from being my regular home card to some other family
> that I've been editing recently. So I figure there must
> be some "shortcut" that I've been hitting accidentally.
> If I knew what it was, maybe I could be more careful to
> avoid it.
***
To which Tricia Dovenspike <help@xxxxxxxxxx_com> replied:
***
> You're right, there is a shortcut. You can drag a
> person's button to the Home button to designate a
> family card as the home card.
***
Ahh, that explains it! The Home button is right next to the Trash button.
I must be missing sometimes when I drag a link to the trash. From now on
I'll make sure that the Home button isn't highlighted before I let up on
the mouse.
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Date: May 04, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Accidentally changing Home card
You're right, there is a shortcut. You can drag a person's button to the
Home button to designate a family card as the home card.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
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Date: May 04, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: BC
Reunion 6 supports BC dates. You can enter dates back to 3761 BC in the
date field.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
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Date: May 04, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Changing Data Card Fields
On April 30, Bob Young <KempAssn@xxxxxxxx_att.net> wrote...
***
> Is there a means to have "Baptism" and "Burial" appear
> on the Family Cards in place of less used fields, such
> as Education?
***
Yes, you can change the family card view. Choose Options -> Define ->
Views, select the Education field and click Delete Field. Use the Add Field
pop-up menu to add Baptism and Burial to the family card view.
For additional information, choose Help -> Search for Help, and search for
"view."
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
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Date: May 04, 1999
From: ranger
Subject: Re: Older Mac's
Count me as another happy customer with older Mac's. I am using Reunion
6.02 on a Performa 6200, 32MB RAM, and System 7.5.5. Yes, it's slow, but
at 75MHz, whaddya expect? <G>
Bob Young
Danbury, CT
ranger@xxxxxxxx_org
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Date: May 04, 1999
From: Frank Leister
Subject: Two milestones for Leister Productions
Greetings,
This week marked a couple of milestones for us.
First, it was 15 years ago this week that Leister Productions was born.
The beginning, in 1984, was very humble. Just a one-man operation,
scratching out a living in the music business. A few years later, personal
computers entered the world of music. In 1988, I bought a Mac Plus and
discovered a knack for software design. I saw my future.
Reunion was born in the summer of 1988 as a project to learn programming,
and to please my mother-in-law. It went on sale in the fall, through a
little classified ad in the back of MacWorld magazine. It "took off" around
1991, with a good review in MacUser magazine.
The other milestone for us this week is the release of another product, the
IconaRanger.
Unlike Reunion, the IconaRanger is a utility that will only be useful to
those who create CDs. (Whereas, I always felt, and still do, that Reunion
can be used by anybody with a family, and a Mac.)
We developed the IconaRanger soon after the release of Reunion 6, because
we wanted a nice image to appear automatically when the Reunion 6 CD was
inserted. We found one shareware product, but it didn't support system 8 or
newer, and it injected obnoxious copyright strings everywhere.
So we made our own.
Does this mean that we're embarking on a new line of utilities? No.
Does this mean we're planning to release other products? No.
Does this mean that we're moving focus away from Reunion? No. In fact, the
next major upgrade of Reunion is progressing beautifully.
All it means is that we put some time and effort into producing a nifty,
simple tool (that, to our knowledge, is very unique) and we thought, since
we expended the development time, why not sell it?
The URL to the IconaRanger web page is...
http://www.leisterpro.com/doc/ranger/index.html
Once again, if you don't create CDs, you'll probably have no interest.
But if you burn CDs (for example, family history CDs) or if you work for a
business that distributes CDs, you should check out the free demo version.
BTW, it's a Mac only product :-)
Frank Leister
Leister Productions, Inc.
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Date: May 04, 1999
From: Bob Perdriau
Subject: Web Sites & Manuals
This may be of interest to some on the list that are doing web sites. It
should also be of interest to those discussing printed manuals and Help
systems.
Let me state emphatically, upfront, that I have no connection what so ever
with Macromedia. I do not even own any stock. I am just a new and, so far,
very happy user of a program called Dreamweaver 2 which is the best thing
I have yet seen for designing web pages. Especially for a very small
business such as mine.
You can DL a trial copy of Dreamweaver 2 from http://www.macromedia.com.
Fully functional, expires in 30 days.
Its A Big DL.:-)
The Help file which comes with Dreamweaver 2 is a tour d'force in what an
online help system can be. A great illustration, IMHO, of how online help
can contribute to user satisfaction in ways that go far beyond printed
manuals. Yes, I do like printed manuals - but here is something more.
Warning: Do not look at it without a 4.x browser equipped with Shockwave.
Things will probably work OK, but you won't really get the whole message.
A good place to start exploring Help is the Tutorial but you will find the
technology all through the system. Used anywhere it can make a
contribution.
Finally, note that Macromedia provides a method of printing the entire
Help system from their web site. Admittedly you will spill a lot of ink
doing this. Still, it is a workable compromise between printed manuals
everyone is required to pay for and strictly online help.
Bob Perdriau
bob@xxxxxxxxxxxx_com
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Date: May 05, 1999
From: Kathleen Much
Subject: crashes
Sandra Ragan said:
***
> The crashes I DO have all seem to revolve around
> Netscape (Explorer isn't any better). If its open or
> has been open, several strange things happen. I usually
> restart when I quit out of Netscape because I know it
> will do it for me if I don't. It seems to hang on to
> memory it doesn't need, even after you Quit out of it
> and when its open, it seems to suffer from what appear
> to be fragmented RAM problems.
>
> Now given the fact that the new online manual HAS to be
> read with a browser, which is being opened and closed
> during an given session in Reunion... need I say more?
***
Just a footnote to my crash reports: I have not had Netscape open, and
I deleted the manual from my hard drive in order to have more space
for Reunion on my little laptop Duo 210. I carry the Reunion 5 paper
manual instead.
No games of any kind are installed on my Duo.
Kathleen Much
kathleen@xxxxx_stanford.edu
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Date: May 05, 1999
From: Celia G. Snyder
Subject: Crashes with Netscape
Here's a trick to help alleviate the problems with Netscape-related
crashes: Go to Control Panel/Memory and turn on the RAM disk and set the
size at probably a minimum of 1200 or so. Then in Netscape Composer, go
to Edit/Preferences/Advanced/Cache and 'choose' the RAM disk as the cache
folder. You'll need to restart before this goes into effect, but once in
effect you will permanently have a RAM disk image on the desktop and
Netscape will keep it's cache there and not on your hard disk. I've found
that this eliminates a lot of the "Type-whatever" crashes while using
Netscape.
BTW, I can't take credit for this - I saw it in MacUser magazine.
Celia Snyder
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Date: May 05, 1999
From: Elisabeth Durovic-Faler
Subject: Creating Reports
Running Reunion 6.0 on PowerMac 7300/166. Nisus Writer v. 5.1.1
I have difficulty to create a Report. It comes out in "Nisus" garbage.
What is the solution?
Thank you.
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Date: May 05, 1999
From: Roynon
Subject: Intermittant Crashes
I was having intermittant crashes and freezes which I blamed on Netscape
until I read about a memory bug on the MacFixit web site
(http://www.macfixit.com/). I applied the patch supplied with the
article and have been extremely stable ever since. This problem affects
MacOS 8.5 and 8.5.1 only and is due to be fixed in the 8.6 update.
The site containing the patch is at:
http://aardvark.magnet.at/software/patches.html#membug
The description of the problem (from the same site):
This patch corrects a problem with Mac OS 8.5 and 8.5.1 first reported
by Steve Jasik. Steve writes: "The manifestation of the bug is random
tromping of memory and sometimes it corrupts the heap (this happens when
an Application is launched). The problem is that some programmer did a
Load Contents when he meant to do a Load Address."
People in the UK can find the patch on the CD on the May edition of
MacWorld magazine.
Geoff Roynon
Isle of Dogs, London, U.K.
(geoff@xxxxxx_demon.co.uk)
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Date: May 05, 1999
From: Judy Pisano
Subject: Memory crashes
There's been a lot of discussion on the list lately about the mysterious
crashes that some people are experiencing with v6. I have been haveing
this happen, too, when I use my older Performa 630CD to enter data. I
keep Reunion on a zip disk, and when I use the exact same program and
files on my Power Mac 8500 in my office, it works perfectly. So I have
only been entering data at work. Now I was just informed that the company
is going to replace our nice Macs with PCs so we can interface better with
other departments!!! Even though I love Reunion, I may have to switch to a
PC program because I can't deal with the constant crashes (I have a PC at
home, too). Please figure out what is wrong and fix it so I don't have to
give up Reunion.
Judy
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Date: May 05, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Creating Reports
When Reunion creates a report, it saves the report to disk as an RTF (Rich
Text Format) file and attempts to open this file into the selected word
processor. Unfortunately, Nisus cannot automatically open any RTF file.
The only way Nisus will open a report correctly is if you save the report
to your hard disk (select RTF File as the Destination) and then import it.
Nisus has acknowledged the problem and said they would fix it, but to our
knowledge, the problem was not been fixed.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 05, 1999
From: Glenn Frank
Subject: Re: How about Reunion for the Palm Pilot?
Tricia Dovenspike wrote
***
> We have considered it. However, at this time, we don't
> have any plans for making a version of Reunion for the
> PalmPilot.
***
I'm glad to here it has at least been considered... Is it the Pilot/Mac
interface that is the major deterant to this? or is it just something extra
you can't consider doing? (other reasons?)
Just being nosey...
O O
\n___/
Glenn Frank
http://home.earthlink.net/~glennfrank
Glenn Frank
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Date: May 05, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: How about Reunion for the Palm Pilot?
On May 3, Glenn Frank <glennfrank@xxxxxxxxx_net> wrote...
***
> I'm wondering if the reunion folks have ever given
> thought to producing an application for the 3com Pilot
> organizers which would interface with Reunion?
***
We have considered it. However, at this time, we don't have any plans for
making a version of Reunion for the PalmPilot.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 05, 1999
From: Edgar Dohmann
Subject: Re: Notes
On May 3, Dian Granberg <irish@xxx_net> wrote...
***
> Through a GedCom file I received had a lengthy note
> connected to the earliest ancester. This note repeats
> through his children, grandchildren and so on. How do I
> keep this note with just the earliest person & not go
> into all the later generations?
***
and Tricia Dovenspike replied:
***
> There's no way to keep this note from importing. You'll
> have to delete it from each person's note field after
> the Gedcom file is imported.
***
My recommendation to Dian, which I think she liked, was to delete these
extraneous notes from the gedcom before importing it.
FWIW, my procedure for handling new gedcoms is:
1. Create a new, empty Reunion file and Import the Gedcom
2. Review the new database and check it out for consistency with the way
I like to record things, make notes of changes that are easier and
quicker to do with Word than with Reunion
3. Make a copy of the gedcom, preserving the original in case I mess
something up, open it with Word and edit tags, records, etc.
The tag that I usually have to change in almost every gedcom I receive is
to change "1 CHR" to "1 BAPM" so baptisms will show up as I like to see
them. I also change the "1 NOTE" tags to "1 HIST" so the user's notes
will go into a custom note field and preserve his notes separate from
whatever notes I might want to add later in the "Misc Notes" field.
The Search & Replace feature of Word can be used to delete some
extraneous things if necessary during this step.
4. After the edits are complete, save the file as type TEXT and repeat
steps 1 & 2 (new files each time).
5. If further gedcom massaging is necessary, repeat step 3 then 1 & 2
again, iterate as necessary until the gedcom imports the way I like it.
6. Only after having a nice, clean import that is consistent with my
preferences and master database structures do I start marking records for
importing into a COPY of my master database.
Edgar Dohmann
edohmann@xxxxxxxxxxx_com
www.ortech-engr.com/users/dohmann
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Date: May 05, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Notes
On May 3, Dian Granberg <irish@xxx_net> wrote...
***
> Through a GedCom file I received had a lengthy note
> connected to the earliest ancester. This note repeats
> through his children, grandchildren and so on. How do I
> keep this note with just the earliest person & not go
> into all the later generations?
***
There's no way to keep this note from importing. You'll have to delete it
from each person's note field after the Gedcom file is imported.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 05, 1999
From: Judy Barnett
Subject: Re: Two Milestones for Leister Productions
On May 4, Frank wrote
***
> This week marked a couple of milestones for us. First,
> it was 15 years ago this week that Leister Productions was born.
***
Very hearty congratulations Frank on a job well done, and for what you are
still doing for us afficionados! Your team has made genealogy a much
simpler recording task for many of we addicted people - and, believe me,
combined with family history it is an addiction!!
I was lucky enough to find Reunion some 5 years ago when I finally took the
plunge to computers and cannot imagine life without it for my recording
tasks. I had been dabbling with my family details for well over 10 years
before that event, and immediately the volume of research results expanded
enormously.
***
> The beginning, in 1984, was very humble. Just a one-man
> operation, scratching out a living in the music
> business. A few years later, personal computers entered
> the world of music. In 1988, I bought a Mac Plus and
> discovered a knack for software design. I saw my future.
***
A couple of quotations spring to mind:
'Great oaks from little acorns grow.'
and another one I cannot remember in full, something about:
'From small beginnings.......'.
***
> Reunion was born in the summer of 1988 as a project to
> learn programming, and to please my mother-in-law. It
> went on sale in the fall, through a little classified
> ad in the back of MacWorld magazine. It "took off"
> around 1991, with a good review in MacUser magazine.
***
It looks as if thanks are in order also for your mother-in-law!
Also Sandra wrote
***
> I'm running a 7500 PowerMac with a Newer Tech 300MHrz
> G3 upgrade, 144MB RAM, and system 8.5.1 - and on a IIci
> with a Sonnet 040 accelerator card under 7.6 with 32 MB
> of RAM. No crashes I can blame on Reunion in either
> machine, except when I don't give it enough memory on
> the IIci.
>
> The crashes I DO have all seem to revolve around
> Netscape (Explorer isn't any better). If its open or
> has been open, several strange things happen. I usually
> restart when I quit out of Netscape because I know it
> will do it for me if I don't. It seems to hang on to
> memory it doesn't need, even after you Quit out of it
> and when its open, it seems to suffer from what appear
> to be fragmented RAM problems.
***
and Judith wrote:
***
> Guess Leister could use more testimonials: I primarily
> use a Power Mac 7600/120 with Reunion 6.02 and have had
> absolutely no Reunion crashes -- ever. (Netscape
> Communicator is my personal party pooper.)
***
Like the above I have had no problem crashes with Reunion, but Netscape is
another matter!! I have a G3/266,4G HD,128 RAM and have given Netscape 30
Megs of memory. Communicator (with last few upgrades) is a dead loss and
I have gone back to using Navigator 3.01. This seems to be quite a bit
better for stability. A case of the latest is not always the best!!
On the Netscape site I did find a General Macintosh Troubleshooting page on
their Netcenter pages and these give quite a bit of detailed useful
information on reasons for freezes and crashes with suggestions for
overcoming the problems.
EG. Type 11 crashes in Communicator: "This can be caused by file
corruption, extension conflicts or insufficient system resources. First
of all check that memory is configured correctly ..." - with detailed
directions. There also appear to be Java problems when accessing web
pages which use Java applets..
Netscape also give support for 64K Java support problems, etc.
It is obvious that Netscape is aware of the problems and are trying to fix
them (I hope!!)
I found much of interest, and I suggest folks check out these pages
accessed through the Netscape Home Page. They have also supplied a direct
enquiry section which goes to an automated reply site, where they give
possible answers to specific questions, and if this does not help, they
give a URL to contact a 'real person'. I got assistance on one item from
the automated helper! Full and easily understandable solutions are
offered step by step.
Apologies for the long message, but I thought this may be of help to others.
I will be unsubscribing in a day or so as I am lucky enough to be off to
Britain on a research trip - Qantas air fares are very cheap right now for
a limited time (I think they want to get their sales figures up before the
end of our financial year on 30 June!!) Will be back in about a month to
catch up on proceedings.
Best wishes to all in the meantime.
Regards,
Judy Barnett
Perth, Western Australia
jbarnett@xxxxxx_net.au
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Date: May 05, 1999
From: Hope A. Stewart
Subject: Re: v.6 crashes
When I first started getting frequent crashes with v.6.02, Leister
recommended I increase memory allocated to Reunion. So, I opened the
Reunion 6 Info window and increased the Preferred Size to 3000.
Unfortunately, this did not work. I have tried many things since without
success.
A few days ago, however, I went back to the Reunion 6 Info window and
this time increased the Minimum Size to 3000 (while still keeping the
Preferred Size at 3000). So far I have not had any crashes. This may be
just dumb luck and another crash is just around the corner, but I thought
I'd mention it for others with crashing problems to test.
And perhaps someone could explain to me the function of the Minimum Size
figure. I understand what the Suggested Size and the Preferred Size are
but not the Minimum Size.
Hope Stewart
------------------------------
Date: May 05, 1999
From: Ian Henzel
Subject: Syncing with Pilot
On May 4, Sandra Ragan <sragplum@xxxxxx_com> wrote...
***
> Put me on the list to second the ability to use my Palm
> III to make notes on family stuff and someday sync it to
> Reunion. Right now I'm trying to get it to interface
> with MSOffice running in Win95 in RealPC. 3Com says
> they don't support RealPC. Any of you have suggestions?
***
You can save your notes as plain text and place them in your shared folder
so that Real PC can get at them.
Ian Henzel
iankh@xxxxx_com
------------------------------
Date: May 06, 1999
From: William M. MacDonald
Subject: Browsers and Crashes
My wife and I have a PowerBook G3 with 160MB, a Performa 6300 with 64MB, and
a new iMac with 96MB. We have the latest versions of both Netscape 4.5 and
the Macintosh Internet Explorer 4.5. I have occasionally experienced
crashes with Netscape, both with the latest and with previous versions, but
we do not have any crashes with Internet Explorer. In fact, the browsers
cause fewer crashes than other large programs, like Microsoft Word. But, I
have found that all program crashes are caused by inadequate assignments of
memory to a program or by conflict with extensions or control panels for
other programs. In particular, old applications or utilities are most
likely the cause. (MacHome magazine provides a CD-ROM with its monthly
magazine that contains the latest updates to the most widely used programs
and utilities.) Conflict Catcher is a utility that can frequently identify
such conflicts.
Finally, I would like to comment on the demands by many for a paper manual
with each new version of Reunion. As the author or co-author of 10
different manuals for computer programs over a period of 6 years, my
judgment is that publishing a well written and illustrated manual with each
release of Reunion would require additional staff for writing, editing, and
preparation for typesetting. In addition, any publisher charges for
printing a manual. The cost of publishing a good manual is not small;
$20-$30 would not be unreasonable according to my experience.
William M. MacDonald
Emeritus Professor of Physics
University of Maryland
Internet: wm2@xxxxx_umd.edu
------------------------------
Date: May 06, 1999
From: Glenn Gardiner
Subject: Netscape Ram Disk and OS 8 Patches
I realize many people may find the OS 8 memory patches work fine,
however, Apple requested that the patches posted to online sites be
removed. It is my understanding that the problem has been fixed in v8.6.
Patching the OS can be an iffy proposition and why subject yourself to a
problem that will be rectified very shortly.
Approximately one month ago I patched Netscape Communicator 4.5.1 with an
application called NAVCOM Cache Control (sorry, PPC only). This tiny,
inexpensive ($1.00) buckware application permanently changes Netscape to
use a memory cache instead of a disk cache or ram disk. This changes the
default memory cache (1mb) of Netscape to whatever you select. Once you
run NAVCOM and it successfully applies your choices Netscape will use
memory for caching, not your hard drive or ram disk (technically a ram
disk uses memory, but see the point concerning File Manager below.) I am
sure I don't have to tell anyone on this list how much faster your
computer can access data from ram then it can your hard drive. Using the
memory cache also avoids having Netscape use File Manager when accessing
the cached pages and when you quit Netscape the ram is once again
available for use by the OS, or other applications (not true of a ram
disk). (These tidbits were taken from the web site.) Netscape has been
rock solid since I modified it and I generally have 3-5 (random)
applications running all the time. My Performa 6400 (OS 8.5.1, 136 mb
ram) has never been, so stable.
Give NAVCOM a try:
email: dayjob@xxxx_com
web site: http://www.io.com/~jackb (link was verified)
I am not associated with this company in any way, other than being a very
happy Netscape user since I used NAVCOM.
Glenn
------------------------------
Date: May 06, 1999
From: HowellDK
Subject: Palm Pilot
On May 6, Frank Leister <help@xxxxxxxxxx_com> wrote...
***
> But as a companion to Reunion, it had important
> limitations, such as screen size, RAM, keyboard, etc.
> In general, family tree information has much more
> breadth and depth than the type of records for which
> the pilot was designed, IMHO.
>
> It also struck me (at least this was true in January
> 1998) that users would have to be both patient and
> savvy to make it sync properly with the Mac.
>
> As I recall, they updated the device recently. So we'll
> probably have another look at some point.
***
I am a new (March 99) and extremely satisfied user of a Palm IIIx. Hot
sync-ing the Palm with my Mac is a breeze. I place the Palm in it's
connection cradle, activate the Hot Sync program, and away it goes. Since
it is so light, I would love to see Reunion have some form of a program
for it.
Warm regards,
Kristen Howell
Misawa Air Base, Japan - 86 more days!!
http://www.geocities.com/~dkhowell
------------------------------
Date: May 06, 1999
From: Frank Landler
Subject: Re: How about Reunion for the Palm Pilot?
It would be very interesting, if somebody could take an existing
application - e.g. expenses - adapt it so that you could insert
genealogical data on the road, transfer it later to your desktop and
import these data - maybe over a special template - to your Reunion
document.
Frank Landler
A-1030 Vienna
Austria
E-mail: Landler@xxxx_AC.AT
------------------------------
Date: May 06, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: more questions
On April 4, Richard M. Leonard <rmleonard@xxxxxxxxx_edu> wrote...
***
> is there an easy way to mark a "family" all at once...?
***
There's no quick way to mark the husband, wife, and children on a family card.
***
> If I select his ancestors.. and then edit his parent
> card to parent set "B" and mark his second set of
> ancestors.... and then make sure that I find all marked
> people with spouses who are unmarked (and mark them
> too).... How do I get all of the siblings marked.
***
Follow these steps:
1. Create relationships for this person.
2. Click the Lists tab in the Relationship List window
3. Check Parents, Aunts and Uncles, and Siblings.
4. Click List.
5. Mark everyone in the Relationship List window.
6. Choose Edit -> Parents and select the other set of parents as the preferred
parents. Repeat steps 1 to 5.
This should mark all ancestors and their siblings.
***
> find all people with firstnames starting with "Lady "
> mark them. replace all occurances of "Lady " in marked
> records with "" (a blank datafield).... but what if
> (wild chance but could happen) they lived in a place
> called "Lady Land" or already had a Suffix of "Lady of
> Spain" or something like that.... would that get
> stripped out too?
***
That is certainly a possiblilty. By doing the Find & Replace on just marked
people, as you suggested, will greatly reduce the chance of this happening.
After the Find & Replace, Reunion will report the number of changes made,
this number should match the number of marked people if no other fields
were changed. Make a backup of you family file before doing this.
***
> How often do you recommend rebuilding the index of the datafile?
***
There's no need to do this on a regular basis. The only time we recommend
rebuilding the index is if you see names out of order or a name is missing.
***
> is there an easy way to check for Looping?
***
There's no easy way to check for looping. You'd have to look through the
file and be familiar with how people are related.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 06, 1999
From: Frank Leister
Subject: re: Palm Pilot
We last examined the Palm Pilot in January 1998 (for possible development
as an adjunct to Reunion).
I thought the Palm Pilot was a neat tool, and perfect for certain
applications - mainly flat-file uses with simple data, such as PIM
information, memos, etc.
And it fit in my shirt pocket!
But as a companion to Reunion, it had important limitations, such as screen
size, RAM, keyboard, etc. In general, family tree information has much more
breadth and depth than the type of records for which the pilot was
designed, IMHO.
It also struck me (at least this was true in January 1998) that users would
have to be both patient and savvy to make it sync properly with the Mac.
As I recall, they updated the device recently. So we'll probably have
another look at some point.
Frank Leister
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 06, 1999
From: ert
Subject: Re:Reunion for Palm Pilot
I think it would be wonderful to have a version of Reunion for the Palm
Pilot. I have a Palm 3, and what I do now is cut and paste register
reports into my note pad, and cut and paste information back into
Reunions. I have no trouble interfacing with my Mac. My husband, who is
much more of a techie than I am, has a database program on his Palm 3,
which might work as well. I still take my laptop to the library, but
would love to use my Palm Pilot instead-a lot easier to carry.
I can see it now-sending gedcoms via infrared transfers at the library.
And to think I remember doing this all on paper. :-)
Ellen Rowan Taylor
------------------------------
Date: May 07, 1999
From: Stu Hotchkiss
Subject: Crashes, Freezes,_etc.
There has been some discussion on this topic recently, and I must admit I
have had my share of troubles with the latest Reunion (except I don't even
receive an error code dialog - it just freezes, leaving the cursor moveable
until I press option-command-escape to do a force-quit, after which
everything stops!).
Here are two free software utilities that may provide some relief from
freezes and crashes - not just from Reunion, but other applications as
well. However, to say that there are any guarantees would be unrealistic.
*****
1. Netscape Defrost
"This system extension keeps Netscape from freezing while accessing Web
pages. Many people have reported freezes which require the Cmd-Opt-Esc key
combination to force quit Netscape. This extension fixes a very specific
type of freeze caused when Netscape (or another program) reads the
MachineLocation from external parameter RAM." (I have not used this yet,
but it was created for earlier Netscape versions, and is reported to work
with Mac OS 8. I don't know if it is needed for newer Netscape
versions. I use the older NS v. 3.0 because it provides Java with my use
of OS 7.5.5)
http://www.erols.com/delorean/nsdefrost.html
*****
2. Mac OS Purge
"This purges the system software memory. For a variety of reasons, the
system software memory allocation can hang on to memory that it no longer
needs, preventing that memory from being available to launch
applications. This utility gives the memory its freedom again." (I keep
this on my desktop and double click it everytime I close an application
that has appeared to give trouble.)
http://cgi-user.brown.edu/Students/East_Asian_House/Members/Takeuchi/mosp.html
*****
Stu
mailto: Hotch@xxxxxxxxx_com
------------------------------
Date: May 07, 1999
From: MKnauft
Subject: Minimum vs. Preferred size
On May 5, Hope A. Stewart" <hope@xxxxxxxx_net.au> wrote...
***
> And perhaps someone could explain to me the function of
> the Minimum Size figure. I understand what the Suggested
> Size and the Preferred Size are but not the Minimum Size.
***
In addition to the helpful explanations provided by others, I would
suggest always keeping the Minimum and Preferred sizes the same. Fewer
crashes, fewer problems.
Dawn Knauft
------------------------------
Date: May 07, 1999
From: Kevin Kozoriz
Subject: Newton (was Palm Pilot)
Hello all,
Been following the talk about the Palm Pilot and thought I'd pass this
along. If you have a Newton check out
http://members.home.net:80/msdsoft/relations2.html
Here's a description in the author's own words:
Relations is a genealogy program for Newton devices. Enter and display
families with all the relationships shown, or enter unrelated individuals as
information is gathered. You can use a Newton device to gather family
history information to be loaded, in GEDCOM format, into a desktop genealogy
program. Relations can be used by itself, but there is limited reporting
capabilities at this point.
Just thought it might be of interest.
Kevin Kozoriz
Visit Kevin's Branch office at
http://www.wizard.com/users/kozoriz/public_html/index.html
------------------------------
Date: May 07, 1999
From: Frank Leister
Subject: Palm
I appreciate your comments about the newest Palm III. It appears that 3COM
has made some progress, both in hardware and software, and in connectivity
with the Macintosh.
I'd be curious to hear exactly how you'd use a Palm Pilot with Reunion.
Obviously, the Palm device lacks the resources to store and display your
entire family file. In fact, entire person and/or family records might, I
imagine, be clumsy to display. So, if used with Reunion, it would
necessarily be limited to adjunct functionality.
If you have some specific ideas, please send to: Palm@xxxxxxxxxx_com
We can't make any promises about Palm development, but we'd certainly
consider revisiting the concept if some of your ideas are enticing.
Thanks very much for your input.
Frank Leister
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 07, 1999
From: shawnday
Subject: Palm to Mac
On May 6, Frank Landler <Landler@xxxx_ac.at> wrote...
***
> It would be very interesting, if somebody could take an
> existing application - e.g. expenses - adapt it so that
> you could insert genealogical data on the road,
> transfer it later to your desktop and import these data
> - maybe over a special template - to your Reunion
> document.
***
Clever. I think this an important distinction in light of Frank's
comments re Reunion on the Palm.
The idea of using the Palm as a data gathering tool and being able to
upload directly into Reunion would be a super addition. I would certainly
posit that it would be worthwile reconsider development from the
direction of Palm to Mac as opposed to Mac to Palm. This really doesn't
stress the memory or screen size restrictions of the Palm that Frank
aluded to and which are entirely valid in many cases. It may not be the
preferential multiuser or presentation tool, but it is a super data
gathering tool.
I've been using my Palm for a couple of years now and most recently the
Palm III.
Now I will admit that it sync's with more stability with my PC rather
than any of my Mac's. I really wish it would do better, but that's
another discussion.
Shawn
------------------------------
Date: May 07, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Bold Dates
On May 4, Sandra Ragan <sragplum@xxxxxx_com> wrote...
***
> Is there a way to control the type styles of dates in
> exported web pages separately from the individual's
> names?
***
Sorry, there's no way to change the text styles of dates.
***
> Bold dates after the names are ugly and they cause the
> lines to break unevenly.
***
I couldn't find where this is happening. Could you show me an example.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 07, 1999
From: SHumphries
Subject: Re: Palm
Just a thought, you might talk to the people at imagiworks
(imagiworks.com) who are a bunch of old Apple castoffs who have -
through the blessing of both Apple and 3Com - created some super
software specifically for the Mac. Initially targetted for the
educational community, it received a Best in Show at MacWorld in San
Francisco last January and did well in Boston.
The interface is impressive, from what I understand from my techie
friends and really boosts the capabilities of the Palm. And the
selection of various of data-collection instruments available through
imagiworks is growing.
As for Reunion uses... I see it more like a Reunion Lite... perhaps
capable of carrying a small-to-medium (0-5,000) family file and access
to all the usual family card data so it can be used in the field.
Certainly the ability to use infra-red to directly import data from FHC
files would be nice.
------------------------------
Date: May 07, 1999
From: glennfrank
Subject: re: Palm Pilot
I read in a recent Mac World that they really liked the newest update of the
palm V and Palm III software for the mac. They said it was much improved and
that they would now "feel right about recommending it as a Mac Peripheral"
If it is not possible to create a full blown Reunion application for the 3com
Palms... it might be possible to create an app that could simply create GEDCOM
files which could be imported into Reunion after a day's work of researching
in the field... Just a thought.
Thanks for reconsidering the idea Frank! I like open minds! The Pilot may
still not have the capabilities needed... but I'm glad you are willing to
check it out again. I hear the Palm V is a really nice piece of computer.
(Macworld went so far as to rate its inovations on par with Apple's Macintosh
as a cutting edge, simple, well thought out and creative solution to
information handling.
Sincerely,
Glenn Frank
Family website: http://home.earthlink.net/~glennfrank
------------------------------
Date: May 07, 1999
From: RogerKIWI
Subject: Re: v.6 crashes
In a message dated 6/5/99 5:10:48 PM, "Hope A. Stewart"
<hope@xxxxxxxx_net.au> writes:
***
> And perhaps someone could explain to me the function of
> the Minimum Size figure. I understand what the Suggested
> Size and the Preferred Size are but not the Minimum Size.
***
When you specify a minimum size for any application, there has to be that
much free RAM available in the "Largest Unused Block" for the application to
start up, even if the largest unused block is less than the Preferred size.
At the time of launch of an application....
1. if the Largest Unused Block is more than Preferred Size, the programme
will launch into a chunk of RAM equal to the Preferred size.
2. if the Largest Unused Block is less than Preferred size, but more than
Minimum Size, then the programme will launch into a chunk of RAM equal to the
Largest Unused Block.
3. if the Largest Unused Block is less than the Minimum size, the programme
won't launch, and the Finder will give an error message that there's not
enough RAM available.
Situation 2 above is the dangerous one - as I pointed out in an earlier post
on this same subject, if the Largest Unused Block after a programme launches
is zero, or very close to it, this leaves the whole computer in a potentially
dangerous situation, as there is no room for the System Heap to expand should
it need to for whatever reason, and if a programme causes it to want to
expand, a Crash can often be the result.
Cheers
Roger
------------------------------
Date: May 08, 1999
From: beverly mcavoy
Subject: E-mailing a Family Group Sheet
Tricia,
I'm not responding to this particular date, but a question arose as to
how to 'make a copy' of family group sheet so that it can be sent e-mail
to someone on the internet. Occasionally a person writing to a Rootsweb
has a question about a certain ancestor, and , if I have some
information that may start an exchange, I would like to be able to pass
it on.
This 'problem' may have been answered before and I missed it. I cannot
find how to save a printout in my manual. I cannot 'copy', 'paste' it.
Thanks for all the many answers I've found in the TalkList!
Beverly McAvoy
------------------------------
Date: May 09, 1999
From: REETREE
Subject: Crash with notes
I knew it would be too good to last. I have a powerbook 1400cs running
Reunion 6 and after two years no major problems. I finally got a crash!
After entering two pages of notes for one man I tried to add a wife to one of
his sons - the computer froze - so I rebooted. When it was up and running
again when I went to the record the notes were gone replace by a square and
other gibirish. Now every time I try to enter the notes feild I get a crash
and bomb- "System Error # 11" I can enter the events in other field ok.
Naturaly the man has 12 children so deleting him totally would be a chore.
What should I do?
Tricia I could send you my files on a zip disk is that ok?.
------------------------------
Date: May 09, 1999
From: LPDuffy
Subject: Re: Palm
Frank queried us:
***
> I'd be curious to hear exactly how you'd use a Palm
> Pilot with Reunion.
***
I appreciate the fact that many people would like to input information into
the Palm Pilot during research trips, but I can see my main use to access
information. I can't tell you the number of times I've stood in a cemetery
or searched through some ancient vital records, wondering if a familiar name
matches someone in my file. I have pedigree charts and family group sheets
with me, but it always seems to be the second wife's second cousin or some
such person who I'm trying to place. I'd love to be able to whip a Palm
Pilot out of my pocket and scroll through some basic data from Reunion.
Looking forward to hearing the ideas of others.
Laura Prescott Duffy
Brookline, NH
------------------------------
Date: May 10, 1999
From: alji
Subject: Photos and Superchart
Currently, I create family charts and must spend a large amount of time
to copy and paste the photo to the person on the chart. It would be nice
to have a option when creating a family chart to include or "attach" the
photo in the chart.
George Goldsmit
alji@xxxxxxx_com
------------------------------
Date: May 10, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Crash with notes
First, make a copy of the family file, choose File -> Save a Copy, and then
choose File -> Repair.
If the repair doesn't correct the problem, you can either e-mail a
compressed copy of the file to our AOL address, LeisterPro, or mail us a
copy on a zip disk.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 10, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: E-mailing a Family Group Sheet
In the Family Group Sheet window, change the Destination to your word
processor. After the Family Group Sheet opens into your word processor, you
can copy and paste it into an e-mail.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 10, 1999
From: Jeff Anderson
Subject: Re: Palm
I don't think anyone needs Reunion for Palm Pilot. The Pilot is not
intended to replace a computer. It is an extension of the computer, a data
collector. I take my pilot with me when I lunch at the National Archives. I
collect data, I use the soundex convertor on the pilot that I downloaded
from somewhere, I make notes, I check off tasks. It is already part of my
genealogy tools. Could Leister make it a better more useful one? In any
case, I am certain some company will eventually. "PalmTree" would be a
great product name no?
I agree with the others who suggest a gedcom recording type of program.
The benefit of making it somewhat generic is that it could work for anyone
using any platform running any genealogy software.
I use a PC and a Macintosh for genealogy and would really like to use the
pilot as a "bridge".
------------------------------
Date: May 11, 1999
From: jimpres
Subject: Changing the Type field
I have a question about Reunion. When you add comments in the personal
records. Is there any way to change the Type field? The rest of them
allow modifications this one stays the same. i.e. birth, death, etc.
Jim...
San Diego.....
------------------------------
Date: May 11, 1999
From: Walter E. Wilson
Subject: crashes, freezes, and a new browser
There has been much talk recently about v.6 crashing or freezing, often
with a net-browser implicated. In this context, I would like to call your
attention to a hopeful development on the horizon.
A small group of programmers in Germany is writing a Mac-specific browser
that has great promise. Check it out at http://www.iCab.de ; you can
download a preview copy (latest version is 1.5 that will expire in
August). It is not yet bullet-proof, but they are on the right track.
It is a "users" browser, i.e. does not have the built-in biases that come
with the content-providers' two (Netscape/AOL & Microsoft). Preferred
memory size is a modest 1.4Meg! And a feature I especially like is the
ability to purge at the end of a session all the cookies that are forced
upon you by many sites.
The only flaw that I have found, so far, is that I can not get it to
connect properly with the Reunion Help menu and online manual. I do not
know who/what/where the problem is. Maybe Leister people can figure it
out, :-)
Walt Wilson http://users.owt.com/wewilson/
------------------------------
Date: May 11, 1999
From: REETREE
Subject: "family log" not mentioned in manual??
When reunion does a repair the creat a family log and tell you to look at it,
no where in the manual (that I could find) does it say anything about a
family log. I finally found it in the Reunion folder, but it was hidden
below the partially opened window.
The worse part about the non paper manual is it has no usable index. Ree H.
------------------------------
Date: May 11, 1999
From: SVass
Subject: Generations
On May 11, Edgar Dohman wrote...
***
> To tell the truth, I haven't tried importing a
> Generations database into Reunion so I can't say if
> Reunion handles the Windows-to-Mac translation of these
> characters properly.
***
I have been directly in touch with the Generations people via a Computer
genealogy user group and have received several test files from them. Their
files can not be read directly; but, it is probable that gedcoms would have
no problem. I am providing my sister-in-law with a file of her genealogy for
her PC. (I have just obtained Virtual PC and will get Generations to test and
send it to her.) I agree that character mapping would be a problem. It is
not a bug. There are some shareware utility programs that remap characters
for those of us with European ancestors.
Sam Vass
------------------------------
Date: May 11, 1999
From: Ian Henzel
Subject: Handling Pen Names
How do I handle a pen name/pseudonym in reunion. I'm working on a relative
who wrote and was generally known under their pen name rather than their
legal name.
------------------------------
Date: May 11, 1999
From: Jan Everly Williams
Subject: Re: Selecting iCab
At 5:01 PM -0400 on 5/11/1999, Walt Wilson said:
***
> A small group of programmers in Germany is writing a
> Mac-specific browser that has great promise. Check it
> out at http://www.iCab.de a The only flaw that I have
> found, so far, is that I can not get it to connect
> properly with the Reunion Help menu and online manual.
***
Have you tried putting an alias of the iCab browser in your Reunion 6
Manual folder? Then start Reunion, go to Report Options/Web, and choose
iCab from the browser popup menu. That's how I got HTML Viewer to work for
me instead of using Netscape or Explorer.
Jan Everly Williams <http://www.lava.net/~tabor/jan/jan.html>
------------------------------
Date: May 11, 1999
From: David Cohen
Subject: Resequencing the list of relatives
Is it possible to re-sequence the way in which the "lists of Relatives" is
produced by Reunion 6, to various specifications?
Hopefully
David
PS: I don't regard myself as a Luddite, but DEFINITELY prefer a hard copy
of the manual, agree that the use of the Reunion 6 manual is quite awkward
to use while it is most needed and also register my vote for a printed
manual next revision.
Dr. David Cohen
------------------------------
Date: May 12, 1999
From: Fotini Koulourioti
Subject: Family name field
A new field of work has been created (defined) - named tree, parallel to
the birth, death, flag - in order to define the name of each family.
Furthermore, my ambition is that this name family George Pepadatos,
determines all the members of the pedigree. The final goal is to unify all
the family trees (the total of the senced families ) into one file. It
would be more convenient if I could find a way of accessing all the
members of a pedigree by typing one name (person). The solution of
copy-paste could be a great delay for me.
Honourably
Fotini Koulourioti
------------------------------
Date: May 12, 1999
From: Edgar Dohmann
Subject: Generations
Sam Vass (SVass@xxx_com) wrote in response to my message:
***
> .... I agree that character mapping would be a
> problem. It is not a bug. There are some shareware
> utility programs that remap characters for those of us
> with European ancestors.
***
Ordinarily I would agree. However, when a Windows program has a specific
capability to directly import files that were generated by a Mac application
(or vice versa), the program doing the importing should have the ability to
handle the character mapping differences. For the program designers to not
anticipate this requirement is in my opinion a BUG! It should not be
necessary to run some third party program to overcome this design flaw.
Edgar Dohmann
edohmann@xxxxxxxxxxx_com
www.ortech-engr.com/users/dohmann
------------------------------
Date: May 12, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: "family log" not mentioned in manual??
The Reunion 6 electronic manual has something much better than the type of
index you'd find in a paper manual. It has the ability to search the entire
documentation simply by entering a few keywords.
For example, to learn about the family log, choose Help -> Search for Help,
and search for "family log." The first link on the Results page will take
you to a page that helps you interpret the log.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 12, 1999
From: RogerKIWI
Subject: Re: Generations
In a message dated 12/5/99 5:14:14 PM, SVass@xxx_com writes:
***
> I have been directly in touch with the Generations
> people via a Computer genealogy user group and have
> received several test files from them. Their files can
> not be read directly; but, it is probable that gedcoms
> would have no problem.
***
Generations 5.2 can IMPORT a Reunion 6 file with no troubles as far as I can
determine...
Note the word is IMPORT not open.
On the Mac make a copy of your Family File and name it to something like
"namefile.uds" - the .uds is the important part. Then copy/eMail/transfer
somehow that file to the PC with Generations on it.
Then on the PC use Generations 5.2 to create a new empty Family File, then
click on File ------> Import/Export ------> Reunion 5 file.
Select the "namefile.uds" file you moved there, and Generations should import
this cleanly. This works on my 8500/300G3 with a 586/100 PC Compatibility
card in it.
>I agree that character mapping would be a problem.
I've no comment on this as I haven't tried to compare upper ASCII characters
from one file to another.
Cheers
Roger
------------------------------
Date: May 12, 1999
From: Hope A. Stewart
Subject: Re: Handling Pen Names
Ian Henzel <iankh@xxxxx_com> wrote:
***
> How do I handle a pen name/pseudonym in reunion. I'm
> working on a relative who wrote and was generally known
> under their pen name rather than their legal name.
***
This is one way you could handle a pen name. I've used Mark Twain as an
example.
In the Edit Person window of your relative, enter his/her legal name with
the pen name in quotes:
First Name: Samuel Langhorne "Mark TWAIN"
Last Name: CLEMENS
Then select Edit -> Add Unrelated Person -> Male/Female. In the Edit
Person window of this new, unlinked person enter the following:
First Name: Mark
Last Name: TWAIN (see Samuel Langhorne CLEMENS)
The reason for creating two cards is so that the person will appear in
the Index, and the Index of your web cards, twice - once under the legal
name and once under the pen name. If someone searches for the relative
under the pen name, they will see the reference to the relative's legal
name and can then look there.
Enter all your relative's information - ie notes, facts, events - only on
the card with the legal name. The pen name card is only there as a
pointer to the legal name.
Hope Stewart
------------------------------
Date: May 13, 1999
From: Dr. Gary Alan Dickey USA
Subject: Family card picture
I have looked in the manual and cannot find how to place a picture for each
person's side of the family card. I thought you could do this. I tried the
multimedia button and could not see anything that looked like it would do
so. Am I mistaken? I saw an advert for Reunion 6 today in MacHome magazine
(and a very nice endorsement at that-five apples and NO cons) and the
display picture showed the family card with the individual pictures. Can
you direct me to the information on how to do this? Thank you.
Gary Dickey
------------------------------
Date: May 13, 1999
From: John Dornheim
Subject: Numbering Pages on charts
Is there a way to number the pages of a descendant chart? When you get
more than four or five pages they are easy to mix up.
Thanks,
John Dornheim
------------------------------
Date: May 13, 1999
From: steve
Subject: Re: Generations
Sayeth Edgar Dohmann <edohmann@xxxxxxxxxxx_com> on 5/13/99 2:01 PM:
***
> Ordinarily I would agree. However, when a Windows
> program has a specific capability to directly import
> files that were generated by a Mac application (or vice
> versa), the program doing the importing should have the
> ability to handle the character mapping differences.
> For the program designers to not anticipate this
> requirement is in my opinion a BUG! It should not be
> necessary to run some third party program to overcome
> this design flaw.
***
Is it a bug that the parts from your cars diesel engine won't work in my
cars gasoline engine?
Same thing here. Unless things have changed radically, most PC programs
simply don't recognize high ASCII characters. They only use the first 127
of the 256 possible ASCII characters while the Mac uses, or can use, the
entire set. It takes some very special coding by the programmers in the
PC world to do what the Macintosh does automagically, simply, every day.
En and em dashes, greek characters and super/sub combitiories simply
don't exist in the PC world unless especially coded for by the
programmers. Give the guys on the Windows side a break, they're really
doing their best to catch up... ;-) STEVE
PS. The "design flaw" is in the platform, not the program.
------------------------------
Date: May 13, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Resequencing the list of relatives
On May 11, David Cohen <edcondav@xxxxxxxx_net.au> wrote...
***
> Is it possible to re-sequence the way in which the
> "lists of Relatives" is produced by Reunion 6, to
> various specifications?
***
Sorry, there's currently no way to reorder the list of relatives in the
Relationship List window.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 13, 1999
From: timholt
Subject: Sort & renumber sources
I have been following this chat group for a while. I have an
interesting problem to see what the group can do with. I have entered
my census sources as single state, county, and year combinations. What
I have done is to find a family in Georgia, Wayne county 1870 and mapped
all my people to this Census Source. The source has a numerical number
of 45. Later on I find more of my family with the same state, county
but the year of 1860. After creating this source, I find the source
number is 56. When I actaully find the same family from 1870 on the
1860 Cenuss source, my source numbers are in reverse order. Also my
sources are starting to creep up in number and I would like to sort them
in Year, State, County order. This would make it easier to find when I
am looking at another family.
I guess my problem is I would like to have the capability to sort and
renumber my sources and keep my connection to all the correct people.
Tim Holt
------------------------------
Date: May 14, 1999
From: sragplum
Subject: Bold Dates, OS 8.6, etc
I wrote...
***
> Bold dates after the names are ugly and they cause the
> lines to break unevenly.
***
and Tricia <help@xxxxxxxxxx_com> responded...
***
> I couldn't find where this is happening. Could you show
> me an example.
***
I have Netscape set on the default font and the pages that show Private are
the worst. Here is an example:
http://www.sirius.com/~sragplum/9_WebCards/wc01/wc01_005.html
Is there a way to change the width of the child table globally so these
long names break better?
I notice that the child status is not bold but the Private line is.
***
> Mac OS Purge
***
This has never worked to free up the memory that Netscape holds on to. It's
only gotten a few K of the 2-10MB at most.
For those who haven't been there recently, my Technical pages have lots of
helpful Mac info and links. http://www.sirius.com/~sragplum/techmenu.html
MacFixIt has a great deal of good information on the pros and cons of the
newest OS release. DON'T UPGRADE UNTIL you check it out.
Sandra Ragan
Plum Grafik
http://www.sirius.com/~sragplum
------------------------------
Date: May 14, 1999
From: Ngchesnutt
Subject: Gedcom import
I have FTM just to read their CDs. Reunion is SO much better at doing
everything! I imported a FTM GEDCOM into FTM and has about 15 lines
"leftover" that FTM did not put anywhere. Do not have any idea what they
are. The next time I imported a GEDCOM I opened a new family in Reunion and
opened the GEDCOM there. Nothing was "leftover" and from what I can tell it
worked beautifully. Just another example of what a great software program
Reunion is.
------------------------------
Date: May 14, 1999
From: SVass
Subject: Generations
For your general information, I have successfully loaded a Generations (Easy
Tree) pc file directly into Reunion 6.02. I used the Import Family File
command and it worked easily. After it previously appeared to fail, I
discovered that I had some conflicts in my operating system causing my DVD
drive and my printer to have problems. After a complete reinstall,
everything works perfectly. The UDS extension required by Generations is
ignored by Reunion.
Sam Vass
------------------------------
Date: May 14, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Bold Dates, OS 8.6, etc
Thanks for the examples. I see what you mean.
***
> Is there a way to change the width of the child table
> globally so these long names break better?
***
Sorry, there's no way to change the width globally.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 14, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Family card picture
Visit the following web page for detailed steps on how to display a picture
on the family card...
http://www.leisterpro.com/Doc/Version6/Answers/pictures.htm
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 14, 1999
From: Edgar Dohmann
Subject: Re:Generations
steve <steve@xxxx_org> wrote:
***
> Is it a bug that the parts from your cars diesel engine
> won't work in my cars gasoline engine?
***
Not a good analogy. Oldsmobile never claimed that I could import anything
between my old diesel lemon and a gasoline engine nor did they provide
any procedures for doing so. The bug was my stupid decision to buy that
hunk-a-junk in the first place. ;-)
***
> Unless things have changed radically, most PC programs
> simply don't recognize high ASCII characters. They only
> use the first 127 of the 256 possible ASCII characters
> while the Mac uses, or can use, the entire set. It
> takes some very special coding by the programmers in
> the PC world to do what the Macintosh does
> automagically, simply, every day. ....
***
Not to belabor things, but I just wanted to make two points:
1) IMHO, if a program is going to have an "import" feature that supports
cross-platform files, then that program should provide proper character
filtering.
2) I wanted to let other users know that if they are using umlauts, etc.
in their Reunion databases, there will be a problem if the file is
imported directly into Generations and that for the time being anyway,
only a gedcom transfer will solve the problem.
Edgar Dohmann
edohmann@xxxxxxxxxxx_com
www.ortech-engr.com/users/dohmann
------------------------------
Date: May 14, 1999
From: Mac Admin
Subject: RE: Generations and Virtual PC
I have also worked with Virtual PC and FTM and importing data via GEDCOM is
pretty easy. There are a few inconsistencies regarding field importing but
other than that it runs smoothly.
Jim McDermott
------------------------------
Date: May 14, 1999
From: Sharon Thomas
Subject: Re:Numbering Pages on charts
I number the pages of charts on the back as they come out of the printer.
That way I can figure out what order they should be in.
Sharon Thomas
Cobb County Georgia GenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacobb2/
Cobb County Georgia Genealogical Society, Inc.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaccgs/
Thomas Family Homepage http://www.stsi.net/~semper73/
------------------------------
Date: May 14, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Numbering Pages on charts
I can see how this would helpful. But there is currently no way to
automatically include page numbers on a chart.
As a work around, you could add a caption, choose Edit -> Add Text ->
Caption, to each page of your chart and enter the page number.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 14, 1999
From: Dr. Gary Alan Dickey USA
Subject: Re: Picture on a family card
On May 14 Tricia <help@xxxxxxxxxx_com> wrote...
***
> Visit the following web page for detailed steps on how
> to display a picture
> on the family card...
> http://www.leisterpro.com/Doc/Version6/Answers/
> pictures.htm
***
Tricia,
That was indeed the answer for placing a picture on the family card. I sure
could not find this section in the online manual I have. Thanks.
Gary
------------------------------
Date: May 14, 1999
From: Judy Pisano
Subject: Reunion to FTM via GEDCOM
I'm having a problem sending GEDCOMS to people that have Family Tree
Maker. I export a GEDCOM for all or part of my family file using the
settings for Gedcom 5.5 and windows characters; email the GEDCOM as an
attachment. When the recipient opens the GEDCOM with Family Tree Maker,
much of the data is missing. In particular, all the marriage information
is gone, as well as all the sources. Some people are missing entirely.
The worst part of this is that, unless the recipient knew what the file
contained originally, it's impossible to figure out what's missing. I
realize that this is probably a problem with FTM, but I was wondering if
anyone else experienced this and if anyone has a way to correct it.
Judy
Judy Jamieson Pisano
jupisano@xxxxx_com
------------------------------
Date: May 15, 1999
From: Davepatgro
Subject: Displaying FGS with pictures
The option to include pictures in Family Group Sheets is wonderful. However,
I've recently encountered problems with it. When creating one (selecting
Netscape Navigator as the Destination) it displays only a relatively blank
window containing the stucco background pattern (the one I selected) but not
the text or pictures of the FGS. The window displays "Family Group Sheet" at
top center and three hyperlinks at the left - Surnames, Contact, and Index.
Opening them does not result in the desired display.
After extensive searching, I found a displayable copy in my System Folder in
a folder called "Netscape Users" as a "Users Profile" document. Also in the
Systems folder there was a copy of it in the Preferences Folder as a
"Netscape Profile Temp" document. I don't think Reunion meant to require us
users to dig these out of the System Folder but rather to display them
immediately after creating the Family Group Sheet (or Person Sheet).
By the way, by using the Destination, "Print Preview" when creating, the FGS
displays OK but without the nifty background - only a plain white one. I've
checked the online manual as well as the special Reunion website that Tricia
suggested to another RT user - to no avail. I've also gone to Options>Define
Views> and selected Show Picture. My Multimedia links have also checked out
okay. I'd hoped to show off what Reunion can do with an FGS to my PC-dominant
genealogy gathering this week but will have to postpone it, I guess.
Could someone enlighten me as to what I am doing wrong? Thanks in advance.
Dave Groebner
------------------------------
Date: May 15, 1999
From: Reiner L. Sauer
Subject: Re: E-mailing a Family Group Sheet
Beverly wrote on 8 May 1999 15:45:09 -0700
***
> Occasionally a person writing to a Rootsweb has a
> question about a certain ancestor, and , if I have some
> information that may start an exchange, I would like to
> be able to pass it on. This 'problem' may have been
> answered before and I missed it. I cannot find how to
> save a printout in my manual.
***
Tricia Dovenspike responded
***
> In the Family Group Sheet window, change the
> Destination to your word processor. After the Family
> Group Sheet opens into your word processor, you can
> copy and paste it into an e-mail.
***
I think that the best way to send family group sheets with photos (or any
output of SuperChart) is to install Acrobat PDF writer. Instead of sending
the data to the printer, you print it to PDF Writer and mail a PDF file as
an attachement.
Please contact me in case you need more info.
Regards
Reiner
Reiner L. Sauer
Jalan Lembang 10, Jakarta 10310, Indonesia
Tel: (62)(21) 314 1505 Tel: (65)(21) 314 7484 Fax: (62)(21) 310-6222
Mobile: (62) (816) 1876499
Email: SauerR@xxxx_net.id & SauerR@xxxxxxx_com
URL: http://www.schevenhuette.com
------------------------------
Date: May 16, 1999
From: Linda
Subject: copy & paste sources & limit which source fields used in reports?
At times I would like to be able to copy and paste a source into a non
Reunion document, and I have not been able to find anyway to do this. Is
there any?
Also, I would like to be able to control which source fields are included in
a report. I have used the text field for information relative to my own
searching and would like to be able to not include in in all reports without
manually going in and deleting it after the report is made. Is there any
way to do this?
Thanks for all the good information on Reunion talk.
------------------------------
Date: May 16, 1999
From: sragplum
Subject: Re: several things
On May 14, Tricia <help@xxxxxxxxxx_com> wrote...
***
> Visit the following web page for detailed steps on how
> to display a picture on the family card...
***
Thanks for the instruction page. Are there instructions in the manual about
sizing pictures or getting the text on the field next to it to show up on
my family card. Sometimes the pictures are cropped or off center unless I
reattach them. If they didn't crop when exported, I would like to control
the amount viewed on the live file page. Can I make the exported pictures
bigger on the family web card pages?
***
> Sorry, there's no way to change the width globally.
***
Maybe the bold "private" can be altered to match the other status entries
in Reunion's defaults in a future update.
Snip... ;-) STEVE
***
> PS. The "design flaw" is in the platform, not the
> program.
***
I'll second that. See a similar comment about FTM below.
Jim McDermott wrote...
***
> I have also worked with Virtual PC and FTM and
> importing data via GEDCOM is pretty easy. There are a
> few inconsistencies regarding field importing but other
> than that it runs smoothly.
***
And Judy Pisano <jupisano@xxxxx_com> also wrote...
***
> I'm having a problem sending GEDCOMS to people that
> have Family Tree Maker.
***
I had the same problem. Now that I have FTM in Windoz, thanks to RealPC on
my Mac, it's easier to see what is happening. I have started importing the
gedcoms into FTM myself prior to sending them and cleaning things up. Much
of the problem is do to the lame capabilities of FTM - not to Reunion. So
far the only thing it has that I would like to see is the preset one page
charts with nice decorative borders and such - that Didn't require lots of
hand tweaking to get them that way. But like most Windoz programs - they
are set up for the convenience of those with no skills - and you are stuck
with what they give you.
A thought for a future version - the ability to sort the index by dates.
And some sort of generational link that would tell the program that a
person without birth/death dates is probably dead if they are BETWEEN
family members in the 1500's, etc.
Sandra Ragan
Plum Grafik
http://www.sirius.com/~sragplum
------------------------------
Date: May 17, 1999
From: Irene
Subject: Error Log
I recently imported a gedcom file into Reunion. All went well and I only
had a few corrections to make. However, the next time I opened the file I
got a message something like this "there is a problem with x family file.
Please see error log." Before doing anything else I "repaired" the file
but was told there were no errors. So I was interested to see what the
error log would say, but couldn't find it !
I've looked in Help and all I can find is that logs are text documents
put in the same folder as the family file in question. I've done a
complete search of my HD with no luck.
Could this be a one off glitch or am I missing something ?
Irene
irene.fitton@xxxxxx_be
------------------------------
Date: May 17, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Error Log
When you run the repair in Reunion, a temporary log file is created. If a
problem is found, this file is saved in the Reunion 6 Folder. If no
problems are found, it is deleted.
The cause of the initial error message was from improperly exiting Reunion.
When you opened your family file, Reunion created the error log, ran the
repair, and then saved the log in the Reunion 6 Folder because it found a
problem. However, when you ran the repair a second time and it found no
problems, Reunion deleted the log file.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 17, 1999
From: Irene
Subject: Re:Netscape (was Bold Dates, OS 8.6, etc)
Sandra Ragan (sragplum@xxxxxx_com) wrote on 14 May 99:
***
> Mac OS Purge - This has never worked to free up the
> memory that Netscape holds on to. It's only gotten a
> few K of the 2-10MB at most.
***
I used to be plagued with crashes after quitting Netscape. I realised
that it had to do with Netscape holding onto memory it should have
released on quitting. I too tried Mac OS purge but it had no effect.
After searching the various forums, I learned that the problem could be
prevented by turning on Virtual Memory (the minimum 1 MB above installed
RAM is enough). This has worked for me for months now. Netscape frees up
its memory every time it is quit now.
To prevent crashes while using Netscape, the shareware "NavComCache
Control 1.3" is a real gem. It allows you to specify the size of Memory
Cache you wish to use.(Normally, the 1 MB default Memory Cache is not
changeable in Netscape). It also allows you to disable the Disk Cache
totally and so speeds up Netscape because RAM caching is much faster than
disk caching. Again, I've had no crashes in Netscape since installing
NCCC. The really good news is that it costs only $3. You can get it at
<http://www.io.com/~jackb/>. ( I have no connection to this shareware or
its author).
Irene
irene.fitton@xxxxxx_be
------------------------------
Date: May 17, 1999
From: CASHKILBY
Subject: Re: Pictures on the family card
Never mind, I didn't catch the 2nd line of the URL. Still need help on the
charts, though, and also how to include things like baptism, burial on the
main card.
------------------------------
Date: May 17, 1999
From: CASHKILBY
Subject: Re: Pictures on the family card & saving charts
In a message dated 5/17/99 3:13:11 PM, ReunionTalk@xxxx_LeisterPro.com writes:
***
> http://www.leisterpro.com/Doc/Version6/Answers/
***
That page doesn't load, just has a link that takes you to your home page. I
would also like to know how to display photo's of people on their main page
on the screen. I'd also like to know how to print out/save/send the charts.
I've increased memory a lot but no matter what, it says I don't have enough
memory to even save a simple descendant chart.
Craig Kilby
------------------------------
Date: May 17, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Reunion 6 to 5 conversion
You can transfer your data to version 5 via Gedcom, choose File ->
Import/Export -> Export Gedcom.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 17, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Seek help interpreting log following crash
This means that either an invalid field or a person, family, or source
field was deleted. If the lost field was used, it will show up with a title
of "?" in the Edit Person, Edit Family, or Edit Source window.
If you'd like, you can e-mail a copy of your family file to
<help@xxxxxxxxxx_com> and we can tell you what field was deleted.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 17, 1999
From: sragplum
Subject: Re: Virtual memory
Irene has some good suggestions. The only rub is that those of us who spend
most of our time in programs like PhotoShop can't take advantage of the
MacOS virtual memory because Photoshop's is allergic to it. Being able to
kill Netscape's disk cache may be enough on its own.
A none Reunion Mac question - has anyone out there experienced bouts of
Finder hang-ups on copying files (size is no object) between various SCSI
drives? This nasty little trick is driving me up a wall. I had gotten rid
of it without finding the cause and now its back. There has been a dialogue
about it among various techs on MacFixIt.
Sandra Ragan
Plum Grafik
http://www.sirius.com/~sragplum
------------------------------
Date: May 17, 1999
From: Jerry Hinman
Subject: Reunion 6 to 5 conversion
I have been unsuccessful in preventing Reunion 6 from freezing while
entering new individuals or information such as dates for existing
individuals. Is there a way to convert my Reunion 6 files back to Reunion 5
until the freeze problem is solved? I've come to the point where I would
rather do that than continue to be frustrated over it.
Here's a recent experience which may be helpful. The freezing occurances
appeared to decrease after doing a "Save a Compact Copy" to fix the beeping
problem when entering data, as suggested recently in Reunion talk. Just
prior to that, freezing had occurred with the second new person entered,
after the computer had been on for only a couple of minutes. After saving
the compact copy, I had only one freeze in several computer sessions
totalling several hours of work, until recently. However, now it's back to
the 10 to 15 minutes of use until it freezes again. Coincidental?
Recently there have been a few messages discussing desired features for
Reunion 7. Would seem to me that understanding the problem and stablizing
Reunion 6 for us Non-Power Mac folks should be done before coming out with
a new Reunion. I really like Reunion, and am hoping you can solve the
problem. From the message traffic it seems like some older computers are
having the problem and others are not. Maybe doing a survey to see it this
experience is consistant might help sort out why it's happening.
Jerry Hinman
Jerry
jhinman@xxxxx_ridgecrest.ca.us
------------------------------
Date: May 17, 1999
From: Linda
Subject: Seek help interpreting log following crash
I am using Reunion 6 and was seeking a source (#286) when it started
blacking out the window line by line. I did a force quit and on restarting
got a message to read a log. (This seems like a very nice quality of
Reunion). The log said "Fields record 173 removed" and "Restoring People
record 421". Person ID 421 was the entry I was making and that person was
not there. That's fine I'll re-enter. What does the other message mean. I
see nothing unusual about person ID 173 or Source 173. Can you tell me what
this means?
------------------------------
Date: May 17, 1999
From: Peter Abbott
Subject: Type 1 crashes etc
Mac LC475 36mb memory reunion 6.0.2 (using 8mb memory) and Superchart 6.0.2
I have observed that often the system crashes when entering data
particularly when entering text which is already stored in Speed Names. I
have turned the feature off and since then have not had a crash. I have
maintained the same work pattern and had the same programs running at the
same time.
I appreciate that this might not be an answer but it works for me. I can
survive without Speed Names.
Peter
Peter Abbott
1 Eymore Close, Selly Oak, Birmingham B29 4LB, United Kingdom
email Peter.Abbott@xxx_ac.uk
Phone +44 (0)121 476 2159 Fax +44 (0)121 476 2159
------------------------------
Date: May 18, 1999
From: Richard Hadfield
Subject: Charts
Hi Folks,
I would also like to add to the wish list the facility to make one page
[A4] charts.
Also although there is no copy/paste buttons in the note boxes you can
paste using the keyboard commands eg....commandV for paste.
As for the history of Reunion I got my first Mac....SE two floppy drives
in 1988 and Reunion the same year:-)
Cheers Richard
------------------------------
Date: May 18, 1999
From: Pierre Lagrange
Subject: More info on web cards
Hi,
Here are some of my requests for Reunion, as soon as possible (Reunion 7,
or maybe a 6.x...)
1. Include more information in person web cards
- - web site
- - address (better, some parts, for example City, Zip Code and Country)
These information are stored in the address dialog, that contains couple,
his and her addresses. All of these information should be possible to be
individually selected to include them in the web and/ or family cards.
By now, I've to duplicate these information in new fields I added into the
customized entry windows.
2. Add some tree option to deploy in the web pages
Up to Reunion 4, I used to use GED2HTML to produce and push my genealogy
files on the web. There is a very good feature into it to produce trees.
I propose Franck Leister to add such a feature, where any name would have
a link to the person page with its description.
3. Reset some values to standard
Because my famly file has been built with Reunion 4, then 5, then 6, and
because I used to make my french version for Reunion, I still have some
old translated parts that are not correct on today. By now, I use the
french translation made by Roger Belanger, and there are some differences.
A good feature would be to be able to reset the translated parts stored in
the family file with the original stored in the resources (or alt
resources).
That's all for today
Best regards from Paris, France
Pierre Lagrange
Personal web: <http://perso.cybercable.fr/pierrel>
------------------------------
Date: May 18, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: copy & paste sources & limit which source fields used in reports?
On May 16, Linda <lindal@xxxx_net> wrote...
***
> At times I would like to be able to copy and paste a
> source into a non Reunion document, and I have not been
> able to find anyway to do this. Is there any?
> Also, I would like to be able to control which source
> fields are included in a report.
***
I can see how it would be helpful to copy the entire source and control
which source fields are included in a report. However, there's currently no
way to do either in Reunion 6.
As a work around for copying a source, you could create a Source List
Report (click Report in the Source List window). After the report opens
into your word processor, you can copy the source.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 18, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Displaying FGS with pictures
On May 15, Dave Groebner <Davepatgro@xxx_com> wrote...
***
> When creating one (selecting Netscape Navigator as the
> Destination) it displays only a relatively blank window
> containing the stucco background pattern (the one I
> selected) but not the text or pictures of the FGS. The
> window displays "Family Group Sheet" at top center and
> three hyperlinks at the left - Surnames, Contact, and
> Index. Opening them does not result in the desired
> display.
***
The page you are seeing is the web cover page. The cover page is included
with every web report you create. To see the Family Group Sheet, you must
click the Index link. This will show you a list of people who are in your
web report. Click on the appropriate name in the index to view the Family
Group Sheet.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 18, 1999
From: Jeff Banke
Subject: Re: Gedcom file
On 18 May 1999, David Vinge wrote:
***
> someone sent me a Gedcom file about this part of the
> family tree. They sent it from a Windows machine. I
> think that my Mac translated it somehow (sometime) as I
> could not see an attachment in the document. Maybe when
> I opened up that specific email message? How can I use
> this Gedcom file? Can the data be transferred into my
> tree(?) ?
***
I am in the same situation, ie; my distant cousin who is working with me
on our tree has a Windows based PC, and I a MAC OS based PC (Motorola),
however have not experienced Davids problem. I have been using Reunion
5 and she is using some other software, and has sent me ZIPPED
(compressed) GED.COM files, which I am pleased to say after unzipping
them I was able to import sans problem into Reunion. We did experience
some problems however in my sending them back to her with my additions,
but that too was in the mode of compression used rather than the Gedcom
file itself.
I was wondering is it possible that Davids file is also zipped? It
would certainly be unreadable if so.
Jeff
------------------------------
Date: May 18, 1999
From: Dave
Subject: Re: Merge ancestors?
Hi y'all,
This is a fascinating program and I have had a lot of good people assist
me in learning about my ancestors and their descendants. I have a couple
of questions. Wouldn't you know it, I have an interesting highlight that
makes me wonder how our family is the way it is!!
This may not make much sense as I don't have the terminology down pat. My
great grandfather and grandmother were first cousins. Each of their
mothers were sisters. I am wondering how I can take the info I have for my
great-great grandmother and put them into both of her daughters' ancestors
trees(?) with out typing in both times? Or how can I reverse one of the
parents (have mother on top and father on the bottom in a descendant
chart) so that the follow the same line (or maybe I don't want to do that
so that maybe no one will recognize this inbreeding!!!!!). I don't think
I'm the first to have this happen but...
Also someone sent me a Ged.com file about this part of the family tree.
They sent it from a Windows machine. I think that my Mac translated it
somehow (sometime) as I could not see an attachment in the document. Maybe
when I opened up that specific email message? How can I use this Gedcom
file? Can the data be transferred into my tree(?) ?
Any insight you can give me into these questions would be greatly
appreciated!
David Vinge
------------------------------
Date: May 18, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Pictures on the family card
On May 16, Sandra Ragan <sragplum@xxxxxx_com> wrote...
***
> Are there instructions in the manual about sizing
> pictures
***
Yes, choose Help -> Search for Help, and search for "resize."
***
> getting the text on the field next to it to show up on
> my family card.
***
If you're referring to the Memo field in the Multimedia window, there's no
way to include this text on the family card.
***
> Can I make the exported pictures bigger on the family
> web card pages?
***
You can use Resedit to change the picture size on the web family card.
Go to 'STR#' ID 130, index 27 and change the third number. The first number
is for Person and Family Groups Sheets, destination Printer. The second
number is the JPEG picture file width.
The unit of measurement is 1/72 inch, so use 108 for 1.5 inches, 144 for 2
inches, etc.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 18, 1999
From: Mike Stupinski
Subject: Re: Virtual memory
Sandra Ragan wrote:
***
> Irene has some good suggestions. The only rub is that
> those of us who spend most of our time in programs like
> PhotoShop can't take advantage of the MacOS virtual
> memory because Photoshop's is allergic to it.
***
Actually, Sandra, RamDoubler (from Connectix) should provide the best of
both worlds here. It provides the extra (virtual) memory and co-exists
fine with Photoshop. I used that combination for some time until I
expanded my actual physical RAM to 256 megabytes and found RamDoubler
maxes out at 256 M anyway, so I got no improvement there! Of course,
Photoshop likes real RAM best anyway.
Mike
------------------------------
Date: May 18, 1999
From: Linda Decker
Subject: Searching Reunion-generated web pages
I've just found a very helpful "free" service that enables you to add a
site search engine to any web page. It's ideal for Reunion-generated web
pages. The only "down side" to it (as with most things that are "free") is
that the search results are displayed on the server's pages and they carry
banner ads (over which you have no control). There is also a fee-based
subscription option that eliminates the banner ads ($7-$30/mth). Once you
register and they "spider" your pages, they send you several lines of html
code to paste into your page. It's quite simple to implement. If you want
to see how I've used it on my own genealogical pages, visit:
<http://faculty.bbc.edu/rdecker/deckergw/wc_toc.htm#Searching>.
The company that provides the service is at:
<http://www.freefind.com>.
Rod Decker
The Deckers -- from the mountains of NE Pennsylvania
Rod (rdecker@xxx_edu), Linda (lindald@xxxxx_com)
and our "3 Rs"--Rob, Rachel, and Ryan
For technical NT material, visit Rod's web pages at:
<http://faculty.bbc.edu/rdecker/rd_rsrc.htm>
------------------------------
Date: May 19, 1999
From: HowellDK
Subject: More Info on Web Cards
On May 18 Pierre Lagrange <plagrange@xxxxx_fr> wrote...
***
> 1. Include more information in person web cards
> - web site
> - address (better, some parts, for example City, Zip
> Code and Country)
***
Hello,
I am very much against putting any personal information, save a name, on
a web card if that person is living. I had a cousin who listed addresses
and phone numbers of his living tree on the web. Within weeks a complete
stranger, his family, and their motor home showed up at another family
member's home (one listed on the web) at 2:00am! Claimed that they were
long lost kin, and could they hang out a while? Ended up staying in their
driveway for over two months ebfore they were, um, removed. No one could
ever prove how they were related...!
I have limited information on the living on the web, for obvious reasons
(http://www.geocities.com/~dkhowell). Bravo to Reunion for giving version
6 users the means to sanitize our web cards! When I receive a query from
a stranger on a living member of my tree, I forward the request to my
family member, and let _them_ make the decision of whether or not they
want to give out their personal information. I just don't want to be
responsible for the potential ramifications, nor do I want to take away
that living family member's right to decide with whom they speak and
correspond.
Please, please - be good stewards of the information that you collect,
and protect your living tree.
Just my .02,
Kristen Howell
Misawa Air Base, Japan
------------------------------
Date: May 19, 1999
From: Craig and Jennifer Lee
Subject: Putting big SuperCharts on line
I've been watching for a few weeks and thought I'd finally throw in my 2
cents on something.
After reading of memory use frustrations of users trying to generate big
jpeg files of charts, I thought I'd throw in my solution. A couple of
solutions actually come to mind. You can check out my charts at
http://thelees.members.atlantic.net/genepool
I also have Reunion web family cards with pictures linked from there. I love
web family cards.
My solution is to post the charts on my web site as Acrobat PDF files
instead of as jpegs. Three advantages of doing this are immediately evident:
1. The files are a lot smaller.
2. The text on the charts is searchable.
3. The charts are zoomable.
The down side is that Acrobat Distiller is another program that you have to
buy, but you may have received it bundled with something else. I work in the
graphics biz so I have access to it.
Another alternative to making the jpegs in SuperChart would be to print the
chart to an eps file from SuperChart (using Page Setup to make it fit on one
page) and then use Photoshop or anything else you may have (Ghostscript
maybe?) that can RIP an eps into an image file.
That's all for now.
Craig in Florida
Reunion user since 1999
------------------------------
Date: May 19, 1999
From: Mo! Langdon
Subject: Re- Chart Request, CD request, question
Anne Kaelber inquires
***
> I have heard of a new chart that FTM has now, I think
> it's called an Hourglass chart. Does anybody know what
> this does? Do I want to be able to do it?
***
An hourglass chart includes a person's ancestors and descendants; like the
fan chart, sounds very cool!!
***
> Also, I would like to know if there is any way to read
> the FTM Archive CD's? I dislike having to have FTM
> (memory/hard disk hog) on my computer just for the
> CD's. I spoke to the people at Broderbund and they
> have NO INTENTION of making a stand-alone CD Viewer,
> like they have for Windows.
***
FTM for (Power)Mac is the only option...
Slan,
Mo!
------------------------------
Date: May 19, 1999
From: Irene
Subject: Re: Error Log
Tricia Dovenspike replied:
***
> When you opened your family file, Reunion created the
> error log, ran the repair, and then saved the log in
> the Reunion 6 Folder because it found a problem.
> However, when you ran the repair a second time and it
> found no problems, Reunion deleted the log file.
***
Thank you for your explanation. I wasn't aware that Reunion automatically
repaired the file upon detection of a problem. In future, if I get an
error message, I will quit Reunion and then look at the log to see what
errors were fixed.
regards,
Irene
irene.fitton@xxxxxx_be
------------------------------
Date: May 19, 1999
From: Jeff Banke
Subject: Re: RAM requirements
On May 19, Tricia <help@xxxxxxxxxx_com> wrote...
***
> SuperChart will need more RAM in order to save the
> chart as a JPEG file. As a result, you shouldn't try to
> make really big charts. How much RAM SuperChart needs
> depends on the size the chart, whether or not you
> include a frame, if there are captions, etc.
***
Do you have a recommended minimum (and I don't mean barely working
minimum) RAM requirement.
I have not yet run into this problem, but have several MAC's of various
generations, and am wanting to dedicate one of them soley to my
genealogical research, so as to reduce the possibility of introducing
anything that might cause a conflict. All my MAC's (all pre G3) have
at least 56Mb of RAM up to 96 Mb, am I likely to run into any problems
soon running R5 with about 1200 people in my family file?
Thanks,
Jeff
------------------------------
Date: May 19, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Saving Charts
On May 17, Craig Kilby <CASHKILBY@xxx_com> wrote...
***
> I've increased memory a lot but no matter what, it says
> I don't have enough memory to even save a simple
> descendant chart.
***
SuperChart will need more RAM in order to save the chart as a JPEG file. As
a result, you shouldn't try to make really big charts.
How much RAM SuperChart needs depends on the size the chart, whether or not
you include a frame, if there are captions, etc.
As a rule of thumb, you can use the following to calculate the amount of
RAM needed...
W * H * 15552 = Amount of RAM
***
> how to include things like baptism, burial on the main
> card.
***
To add fields to a family card view or create a new view, choose Options ->
Define -> Views.
For additional information, choose Help -> Search for Help, and search for
Views.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 20, 1999
From: jimpres
Subject: Pictures
About the Mac, I have a G3/300 with 128M RAM no problem running multiple
programs. I think 56M would be fine.
I am still trying to get pictures in my files. Have not read the book yet.
Seems it should be an easy thing to do. No picture laber under any of the
selections. Don't know if you can do it but would like to see the family
card with the pictures of the parents and grandparents on that card. Also
would like to put a picture of the person when young and older. Possibly
one at middle age. Also would like to put naturlization, birth, death,
kinds of papers in the file for safe keeping.
I download the family file to a zip drive. I hope all these things can be
done. I just need to read the book, I am running Reunion 6.0 for the Mac.
Is the digest the only list for Reunion or is there a real time E-Mail
list????
Jim
------------------------------
Date: May 20, 1999
From: jtackitt
Subject: QuickKeys solution
On May 20, Chuck Willke <willke@xxxxx_net> wrote...
***
> Family Roots had a feature that I used regularly and
> would welcome in Reunion. A key settings' menu enabled
> the user to define a sequence of characters to be
> inserted when the user typed A thru and thru 9.
***
Chuck: I think an easier solution would be to just install the program
"QuickKeys," then you could use it for all your entry work.
Jim W. Tackitt, 1830 Johnson Dr., Concord, CA 94520; <jtackitt@xxx_net>
------------------------------
Date: May 20, 1999
From: Edgar Dohmann
Subject: Re:Another wish list!!
Ronald Cox <roncox@xxx_ORG> wrote (in part)...
***
> Find Currently we can find unlinked individuals, but
> I've been unable to come up with a group of search
> criteria to pick up "orphan" couples. (Or even better,
> an orphan family.)
***
It's a 2-step process but I think you can find ophan couples as follows:
Use the individual searchs to FIND "# Spouses MORE THAN 0 AND #Children
EQUAL 0 AND #Parent Cards EQUAL 0."
This will find all family cards with no children and at least one spouse
has no parents. Mark these cards then use the couple search to FIND "#
Marked Spouses MORE THAN 1."
This should then give you the subset families where both spouses do not
have any parents. That should be your orphan couples.
Orphan family searching is a bit more difficult with the current searching
capabilities and might be a useful feature.
***
> Status Be nice to be able to search on status, e.g. all
> "Died as an infant" or whatever.
***
You can already do this. Select the option from the Couple button.
***
> Ability to handle a double status, e.g. twin who died
> as an infant.
***
At present, you can define your own "individual" flags to accommodate
this but it would be nice if it were possible to set multiple child
status flags from the family card.
***
> Open files Ability to have two files open.
***
The ability to open two files from one instance of Reunion would be nice.
However, in the meantime, I just made a duplicate of the Reunion 6
application, left it at the default name of Reunion 6 Copy and open both
the original version and the copy at the same time so I can have two
Reunion 6 databases open at the same time.
I work in this mode practically every session that I am using the program
and it has never caused me any problems whatsoever.
Edgar Dohmann
------------------------------
Date: May 20, 1999
From: Anne Kaelber
Subject: Re: Charts
I said in a previous Digest:
***
> I would like to be able to do a fan chart, in
> Reunion. Especially since I found a web site that will
> take Reunion's Super Chart file and print it on ONE
> SHEET for a fee (http://www.familygroups.com). These
> would be beautiful on my living room wall.
***
I hope you all will permit me to correct myself. I had graciously *g*
included the site I was referring to -- and did it incorrectly! If I may,
please note the CORRECT web site is:
http://www.familygraphics.com/
(Thank you to the person who caught my error).
Anne Kaelber anne@xxxxxx_net http://www.nimitz.net/reunion/
------------------------------
Date: May 20, 1999
From: Tim Lundin
Subject: Re: Hourglass Charts and Saving Charts
Anne Kaelber wrote:
***
> I have heard of a new chart that FTM has now, I think
> it's called an Hourglass chart. Does anybody know what
> this does? Do I want to be able to do it?
***
Reunion can do hourglass charts, which are simply a combination pedigree
and descendant chart for a source person...in a top-to-bottom format,
they're wide at the top and bottom and narrow in the middle, hence the
term hourglass. In Reunion, just select Create-->Relative Chart and change
the Layout option to hourglass. There's also options to include or leave
out siblings of ancestors and the source person. I think they're neat.
On May 17, Craig Kilby <CASHKILBY@xxx_com wrote...
***
> I've increased memory a lot but no matter what, it says
> I don't have enough memory to even save a simple
> descendant chart.
***
If you want to share your chart with a Windows user, JPEG clearly is the
format to use. However, if RAM limitations just don't allow saving as a
JPEG, you can always change the file type to PICT in the Save as Graphic
File dialog, and hope your recipient is resourceful enough to find a way
to view it (no problem on a Mac). Once it's saved as a PICT file, you can
also use shareware utilities such as GIFConverter or GraphicConverter to
change it to a format more amenable to Windows (such as TIFF or GIF). I
don't recall how big these files get. MacLink Plus also does some
conversions that might help.
Tim
http://www.familygraphics.com
------------------------------
Date: May 20, 1999
From: Edgar Dohmann
Subject: Re: Most recent source order
Chuck Willke <willke@xxxxx_net> wrote...
***
> reverse the listing order of the five most recent
> sources so the one that was used most recently (and
> most likely to be used again) is at the bottom rather
> than at the top of the list. Since you are moving from
> the request to 'add' a source to the selected entry, it
> would be a shorter and easier move with less chance of
> getting the wrong entry.
***
Hmmm, it seems to me that the present implementation is preferable. On my
machine, the move from "New Source" to the most recently used source at
the top of the list is the shortest distance - it would be a longer
stroke to go to the bottom of the list.
I notice that if I have the edit window positioned too close to the
bottom of the screen, it becomes a scroll-up dialog box rather than a
scroll-down box. Could this be your problem?
Edgar Dohmann
edohmann@xxxxxxxxxxx_com
www.ortech-engr.com/users/dohmann
------------------------------
Date: May 21, 1999
From: Judith Hymes
Subject: "No Children" in reports
If this question has been answered, I apologize. I do not have time to
read all of the useful info that is posted.
Question. Is there a way to have the "no children" format carry over into
the reports? If not, I would like to see this in the next upgrade. Prior
to the "no children" button I put "no children" in a children's box. This
numbers the "no children" and makes a messy index.
If the "no children" option carried over to the reports, one could always
edit it out if you do not want it. Without it, you can not tell if there
are "no children", or if descendants on a specific line have not been
found. A note is much less visible option.
Judith.Hymes@xxxxxxxx_edu
------------------------------
Date: May 21, 1999
From: thelees
Subject: oops
A couple of people have e-mailed about not being able to access my site
listed in yesterday's message. Try the following links instead:
http://www.atlantic.net/~thelees/genepool/index.html
or
http://thelees.members.atlantic.net/genepool/index.html
Sorry about that folks.
Craig in Sunny Florida
------------------------------
Date: May 21, 1999
From: Nealegd
Subject: Re: Custom Dates
In a message dated 5/20/99 5:07:05 PM, Ronald Cox writes:
***
> Death information. Very often we know that a person is
> dead/deceased but do not know the dates, either
> burial/death- just that they are dead. Unfortunately
> neither of these two common terms, dead/deceased can be
> used as information in date fields...It would be nice
> if a "standard" term could be assigned for this
> situation, thus obviating the Custom Date confirmation,
> and the appropriate report wording adjustments.
***
I would like to add two more "non-custom" date inclusions for v7.0, that is:
In the Death/Birth field add the term "fl." or flourished, which I use often
when I don't know when a person died but know when they last lived. The
second is the term, "say." I noticed in the New England Genealogical
Register, many of the articles use this term to indicate that the writer is
guessing at the date based on certain facts, i.e., if you don't know their
birth date but they had their first child in 1810, you add their birth date
as "say 1790" guessing they were probably around 20 at their 1st child's
birth. I find when indexing ancestors who all have the same name, it's
helpful to put some kind of date at least in the birth field to distiguish
from a "John born say 1490" and a "John born say 1785" but need to let myself
know (and others) that is not a sourced date.
Just a thought....
Sally Neale
------------------------------
Date: May 22, 1999
From: lawson
Subject: Find and Mark Almost Anything
I've pieced together a Reunion file for an in-law from a number of Gedcom
files. All merging is complete and I am now doing various cleanup. Two
'problems' arise.
1. After merging there are many blank family cards still in the file. These
may be found by going to Find Anything, Couples, and searching with # of
Spouses = 0. There are over 450 such cards, but they cannot be marked for
subsequent deletion of all marked persons (since there are no persons to
mark). How does one delete these empty Family Cards without going to the
card, dragging it to the trash, and returning to the report to repeat the
sequence over 450 times? As far as I can see, these empty card cause no
problem (except for erroneous information on the number of families).
2. After merging there are many persons with multiple birth, death and
other specific event fields, as explained in the manual for Match and
Merge. For events, it is possible to find some of the persons with multiple
fields with a Find Anything on Persons with, for example, Birth Date Is
[blank] AND Birth Date Is Not [blank]. But this picks up very few of the
hundreds of persons that have multiple fields. How does one mark all
persons with more than one field for any specified event, fact or note? If
they cannot be Found and Marked, is there any way to locate several hundred
such persons except by either opening each of the 9000 plus cards and
looking under each tab, or by printing Person Reports for everyone in the
file? It would be GREAT to have a Find Anything for any selected field
where Number > 0.
Steve
Stephen M. Lawson Port Orchard, WA USA <Steve@xxxxxx_net>
Family Kinnexions: http://Steve.Lawson.net eFax: 508-627-7773
------------------------------
Date: May 22, 1999
From: Linda
Subject: How to keep quotes around nick names in reports?
I have generally entered nick names or names the person went by that were
not actual given names in quotes. This works fine on the family cards,
etc. but when I make a report the quotes disappear. Is there any way to
keep them?
------------------------------
Date: May 22, 1999
From: Bert Damron
Subject: Re: Most recent source order
Chuck Willke <willke@xxxxx_net> wrote...
***
> reverse the listing order of the five most recent
> sources so the one that was used most recently (and
> most likely to be used again) is at the bottom rather
> than at the top of the list. Since you are moving from
> the request to 'add' a source to the selected entry, it
> would be a shorter and easier move with less chance of
> getting the wrong entry.
***
and Edgar Dohmann answered
***
> Hmmm, it seems to me that the present implementation is preferable. On my
> machine, the move from "New Source" to the most recently used source at
> the top of the list is the shortest distance - it would be a longer
> stroke to go to the bottom of the list.
> I notice that if I have the edit window positioned too close to the
> bottom of the screen, it becomes a scroll-up dialog box rather than a
> scroll-down box. Could this be your problem?
***
I think Chuck Willke is talking about the Add Source menu (and other
similar menus) which are scroll-up menus where one needs to negotiate
through all the sources in order to get to the most recently added source.
I agree with Chuck that reversing the order, which would mean that the
shortest distance would be to the most recently added source, would be a
great improvement. Working with the scroll-up menus on my powerbook's
trackpad is especially problemmatic (less so since I installed OS 8).
I have experimented moving the edit window away from the bottom of my
screen and the menus I am talking about are still scroll-up menus.
Bert Damron
Athens, OH
------------------------------
Date: May 22, 1999
From: RogerKIWI
Subject: Re: QuickKeys solution
In a message dated 21/5/99 5:14:07 PM, jtackitt@xxx_net wrote:
***
> I think an easier solution would be to just install the
> program "QuickKeys," then you could use it for all your
> entry work.
***
I disagree - I do not want to either buy, or use QuicKeys - I try not to add
too much stuff to my computer that messes with things at the level in the OS
that something like QuicKeys does.
However TypeIt4Me is very useful in Reunion (and lots of other places).
plink plink
Cheers
Roger
------------------------------
Date: May 22, 1999
From: lnoble
Subject: Web Page Setup
Can anyone help me with this problem? I generated a web folder using
Reunion 5 and tried to create a website on "xoom.com" so that I could
display my family information. I could find no way to upload the web
folder as one item. Using Netscape 3.01, I had to upload each file
individually. I uploaded the files in the order that they appeared in the
web folder. When I later checked out my website, all it showed was a list
of files. I thought maybe the website host needed time to organize it, so
I waited a few days before checking it out again. Same list of files. I
ended up deleting the whole thing from the website.
Can someone tell me what I did wrong or how I can upload the entire folder
at once?
Thanks,
Chris
------------------------------
Date: May 23, 1999
From: Denny Lowe
Subject: Gedcom Transfer - Citation problems [?]
I have just upgraded from 5.06 to 6.02 [via CD ROM 6.02] and have tried
some initial expriments with Gedcom transfers.
In my "source" file several individuals have multiple notes grouped
[chronologically, to group differing opinions from different sources, etc.]
into paragraphs and carry "superscript" source citations. Some paragraphs
containing my own thoughts may not have citations. These comments apply to
both "Research" and "Misc. Notes". While some of the citations are
possibly of version 4 vintage, others are version 5 [free form, or
structured].
After exporting a 5.5 gedcom [with source citations] to disk, I have
created a new file and imported the gedcom. I find that all of the notes
are intact in the "new" file...however, all citation numbers have been
stripped from their respective paragraphs and are now grouped into a single
comma-separated string, appended to the "last" note. Since there are fewer
citations than paragraphs, this becomes rather problematic. [Other
citations, for hatches, matches and dispaches etc., appear to be OK.]
Taking a quick look at the gedcom in my word processor: the source
citations are not associated with their respective paragraphs...they are
all grouped after the last note, possibly suggesting problems in the export
function.
The question is, is this indicative of a "bug" or am I missing something?
Denny
------------------------------
Date: May 23, 1999
From: steve
Subject: Handling dates
Sayeth ReunionTalk at ReunionTalk@xxxx_LeisterPro.com on 5/21/99 2:01 PM:
***
> Rather than entering dead/deceased, you should enter a
> ? or use one of the other methods described in the
> "Dates" chapter under the heading "If You Don't Know a
> Date?"
***
"AFT" and "BEF" dates SHOULD NOT be calculated from. Reunion is 100%
WRONG whenever it does so. First off, "Aft 1964" means 1965 at the
earliest. For that matter, more care needs to be taken with terms. For
instance: The family card uses the word "Death". My entry "Aft 1964"
there means that they died, OR WILL DIE, sometime after 1964. It says
noting about their death other than I knew they were alive all through
1964. Likewise, "Aft MAY 1965" says nothing about whether they are dead
or alive, just that they were alive in May of 1965. Reunion's assumption
that someone is dead if there is any entry in Death is presumptive, and
incorrect reasoning. The instant that Reunion sees Aft or Bef it should
cease all date calculations... or at least use the statement correctly.
STEVE
------------------------------
Date: May 23, 1999
From: steve
Subject: Sources
Sayeth Sandra Ragan at ReunionTalk@xxxx_LeisterPro.com on 5/21/99 2:01 PM:
***
> And last but not least by any means - the ability to
> edit the sources in bulk - 2000 of my 3000 sources are
> repetition trash from Broderbund.
***
Heck, I'd be willing to settle for just being able to sort the sources so
I can find what I'm looking for... STEVE
------------------------------
Date: May 23, 1999
From: nettie edwards
Subject: Thankyou !
I've just imported my first -ever Gedcom file into Reunion - a database
,with1600 names- which expands my tree considerably ,with notes etc.... It
took about 10 seconds... AMAZING !!!!
I'm so excited i just had to mail and say "thankyou" for such a terrific
programme ! Now I have to learn how to link that file up to the appropriate
part of my core family file ...could take a lot longer than 10 seconds !!!!
Reunion 6 seems to be very happy on the iMac .
Thanks once again and all the best,Nettie Edwards
------------------------------
Date: May 24, 1999
From: Peggy Kolm
Subject: Including the Memo field
Hello,
I have a question about listing burial locations. I have the city where
the cemetery is in the place field, and the actualy cemetery in the memo
field. I do this so that when I make a location list, all the people
buried in different cemeteries in the same place are listed together. My
question - is there any way to get the information in the memo field to
print on family group sheets, reports, etc?
Thanks,
Peggy Kolm
kolm@xxxx_mit.edu
------------------------------
Date: May 24, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Gedcom Transfer - Citation problems [?]
This isn't a bug. Gedcom has no provision for multiple citations in a note
field when citations are located within a string of text. Thus, when
Reunion exports a Gedcom file, it puts the citations at the end of the note.
One of our user's recently posted a work around for this Gedcom limitation.
If you'd like to see if his suggestion will work for you, visit our
ReunionTalk archives and search for "source citation notes."
http://206.6.246.10/RTFolder/default.htm
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 24, 1999
From: Edgar Dohmann
Subject: Re: Handling dates
Sayeth ReunionTalk at ReunionTalk@xxxx_LeisterPro.com on 5/21/99 2:01 PM:
***
> Rather than entering dead/deceased, you should enter a
> ? or use one of the other methods described in the
> "Dates" chapter under the heading "If You Don't Know a
> Date?"
***
and Steve <steve@xxxx_org> responded:
***
> "AFT" and "BEF" dates SHOULD NOT be calculated from.
> Reunion is 100% WRONG whenever it does so. ...
> Reunion's assumption that someone is dead if there is
> any entry in Death is presumptive, and incorrect
> reasoning. The instant that Reunion sees Aft or Bef it
> should cease all date calculations... or at least use
> the statement correctly.
***
I agree completely. Also the Statistical Report feature of Reunion should
not use this information to calculate Age at Death or Age Distribution
information. Since this type of notation may not be even remotely
equivalent to "circa" or "about" notations, basing statistical
information on "before" or "after" notations as if it were "about" throws
the statistical report off.
Any dates with "before" or "after" (or "bef" or "aft") should either not
be used for the statistical report calculations or there should be a
separate category for them.
At the present time I do not use "before" or "after" notations because of
this problem. For me, the statistical report feature is extremely
important (I made substantial use of it in the book that I just
finished); however, to generate reliable statistics, I only entered birth
and death information if I knew the exact date or a close approximation
from specific information and evidence.
By doing this, I can mark a group of people, run a statistical report,
then search that group for the subset with both a birth and a death date
to get the number of people for whom the Age at Death information applies
and know that the statistics are valid for that subset of my group. With
Reunion's present implementation of date calculations, that would not
work if I used date indicators like "before" or "after".
(I know, I could search my group for instances of "bef" or "aft" to
remove those individuals from my group before running my statistical
report but I am looking for less work, not more, and I may want to keep
them in the group for some parts of the report (if the exact birth date
is known but not the death date, then the Age at First Marriage is still
valid and I would not want the record eliminated from the group.))
Edgar Dohmann
edohmann@xxxxxxxxxxx_com
www.ortech-engr.com
------------------------------
Date: May 24, 1999
From: Edgar Dohmann
Subject: Re: Most recent source order
Bert Damron <bdamron@xxxxxxx_net> wrote:
***
> I think Chuck Willke is talking about the Add Source
> menu (and other similar menus) which are scroll-up
> menus where one needs to negotiate through all the
> sources in order to get to the most recently added
> source. ...
> I have experimented moving the edit window away from
> the bottom of my screen and the menus I am talking
> about are still scroll-up menus.
***
I'm not sure why there is a difference in our systems. I was also
speaking of the Add Source menu. When I'm in an Edit Window and click on
"Add Source", I get a Scroll Down box with the cursor sitting on "New
Source" - directly below that is "Existing Source" and directly below
that is my 5 most recently used sources with the latest one used at the
top of the list.
I am using Reunion 6.02 on a G3/266 at home and a 7300/200 at home; both
with OS 8.5 and 17" monitors. Perhaps the monitor is the secret? Maybe
Tricia can shed some light on why this feature works differently on some
systems.
Edgar Dohmann
edohmann@xxxxxxxxxxx_com
www.ortech-engr.com/users/dohmann
------------------------------
Date: May 24, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: No Children
On May 21, Judith Hymes <Judith.Hymes@xxxxxxxx_edu> wrote...
***
> Is there a way to have the "no children" format carry
> over into the reports?
***
The No Children text will automatically appear in the Family History
Report, Ahnentafel Report, Person Sheet, and Family Group Sheet.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 24, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: RAM requirements
On May 20, Jeff <jbanke@xxxxx_com> wrote...
***
> Do you have a recommended minimum (and I don't mean
> barely working minimum) RAM requirement.
***
The current default size (1500K) should be plenty for creating charts.
If you start including pictures, you could double the size to 3000K.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 24, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Saving Charts
Ted Swift <tjswift@xxxxxxx_edu> wrote...
***
> Could you please tell ReunionTalk what units you're
> using here? Are width and height in inches,
> centimeters, or decicubits? And is RAM in bytes or what?
***
The units of measure are...
W (inches) * H (inches) * 15552 (bytes/sq. inch) = Amount of RAM (bytes)
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 24, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Web Page Setup
You can use Fetch to upload the entire web folder. For information on how
to do this, visit the following web page...
http://www.leisterpro.com/Doc/Version6/Answers/uploading_files.htm
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 24, 1999
From: LinRoberts
Subject: Sources
In a message dated 5/24/99 5:12:12 PM Steve wrote:
***
> Heck, I'd be willing to settle for just being able to
> sort the sources so I can find what I'm looking for.
***
I also thought I had to have a way to sort sources. But if you just open the
list of sources, you can do a search on anything you want. For instance, I
do a search on CD and find all the sources that point to a CD. Or a search
on Bedford will show me all the sources for Bedford County, VA.
Linda Roberts
------------------------------
Date: May 24, 1999
From: LenKalish
Subject: TypeIt4Me
On May 20, Chuck Willke <willke@xxxxx_net> wrote...
***
> Family Roots had a feature that I used regularly and
> would welcome in Reunion. A key settings' menu enabled
> the user to define a sequence of characters to be
> inserted when the user typed A thru and thru 9.
***
Another good tool to speed up your typing is the inexpensive shareware
program <TypeIt4Me> by Riccardo Ettore. I've used it for several years with
no problems.
Len Kalish
------------------------------
Date: May 24, 1999
From: HowellDK
Subject: WEb Page Setup
On May 22, <lnoble@xxx_campuscwix.net> wrote...
***
> I could find no way to upload the web folder as one
> item. Using Netscape 3.01, I had to upload each file
> individually. I uploaded the files in the order that
> they appeared in the web folder. When I later checked
> out my website, all it showed was a list of files.
***
Hello,
Most free email servers do not provide access to subdirectory creation. I
have an account with Geocities, and pay for the GeoPlus ($4.95) program. Not
only can I have subdirectories and neat JavaScripts on my pages, but the fee
also gets rid of those pesky little advertising pop ups and watermarks. Also,
I use Fetch as my FTP program. Just drag and drop the whole file onto the
Fetch window, and it uploads the whole thing - file and all.
If you don't want to pay $5 a month for subdirectories, you can create a
"flat" web site using Reunion 6. Go to Options --> Reports --> Web --> and
check the box that says "Create Flat Web Projects." Then run your web file
again.
Let me know if you need any help!
Warm regards,
Kristen Howell
Misawa Air Base, Japan
http://www.geocities.com/~dkhowell
------------------------------
Date: May 25, 1999
From: Helen Parsonage
Subject: LDS CDs on the Mac.
Thanks to everyone who replied to my earlier (if cryptic) message! With the
assitance of Dennis Cunniff, I can now tell you that there is good and bad
news.
First the good:
It is quite possible to open and search the 1851 census CD on a Mac,
without PC emulation or the need for a PowerPC. Here's how I did it:
1. Get your hands on the program Folio Bound Views 3.10.3. It comes free on
several demos CDs of searchable databases (esp. law). I got mine on a demo
disc from:
http://www.fedpub.com/immigration/IRIS/irisorfm.htm
(so now you know what I do for a living <g>)
If you can't get hold of this program I'm sure I could pass along the odd
copy!
2. Insert the 1851 CD then open the application and do FILE>OPEN>1851CEN.NFO
3. The index to the census opens up!! Click on the top button in the
toolbar down the left hand edge (question mark with a magnifying glass) to
get the query dialog box.
4. You can type in one word, or a string of words (you can use booleian
AND/NOT type connectors as well). It will show the number of hits.
5. Click on OK.
6. Use the left and right double-arrow icons to move through the hits, and
click on the name you want to pull up a full entry.
7. When you are done use the little footprints button to return to the index.
There are some things you can tweak in the preferences, although most
options are disabled in this demo version. You can export data as
tab-delimited ASCII text.
You'll get none of the pretty graphics or customized query templates that
were made especially for this CD - but I don't give a fig for that stuff
anyway!!!
I have had such fun with this CD since I made this discovery - wish I'd
thought of it sooner!!
Now the bad news:
Dennis tried the same thing on the 1881 CDs - and nothing would work : - (
Apologies again for the off-topicness of this, but I know that accessing
these CDs is a cause dear to all our hearts.
Hope this helps someone,
Helen
------------------------------
Date: May 25, 1999
From: Hope A. Stewart
Subject: Re: How to keep quotes around nick names in reports
"Linda" <lindal@xxxx_net> wrote:
***
> I have generally entered nick names or names the person
> went by that were not actual given names in quotes. This
> works fine on the family cards, etc. but when I make a
> report the quotes disappear. Is there any way to keep
> them?
***
I find when I use Smart Quotes in Reunion, they get stripped out when I
create a report. Dumb quotes seem to transfer all right. So, under
Options turn off Smart Quotes and hopefully that will solve your problem.
(BTW - Smart quotes look like the numbers 66 and 99. Dumb quotes look
like the symbol for inches.)
Hope Stewart
------------------------------
Date: May 25, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: How to keep quotes around nick names in reports?
On May 21, Linda <lindal@xxxx_net> wrote...
***
> when I make a report the quotes disappear.
***
and Hope Stewart <hope@xxxxxxxx_net.au> responded...
***
> I find when I use Smart Quotes in Reunion, they get
> stripped out when I create a report. Dumb quotes seem
> to transfer all right.
***
It sounds like your word processor is either ClarisWorks or AppleWorks.
When you create a report in Reunion, it is saved as an RTF (rich text
format) file and then is automatically opened in your word processor. The
RTF translator (version 1.1v3) that comes with ClarisWorks 4.0 or newer and
AppleWorks, strips out extended characters, such as smart quotes.
As Hope suggested, the best solution is to use dumb quotes in Reunion,
choose Options -> Smart Quotes.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 25, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Including the Memo Field
Yes. Choose Create and select your report. In the report window, select
Define Layouts from the Layout pop-up menu. Then, select Event Format and
check Include Memo Field.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 25, 1999
From: Lorelei S. Gustafson
Subject: Re: Web Page Setup and Uploading
There's really no problem creating a website for GeoCities or ???
You need to create an index or use Reunion to do so. I create my own
index and use Reunion to create a TOC (and choose the option of NOT creating a
separate page for surnames,etc). Upload the index you have created (I use
GoLive, but you can create the index with any web designing program or start
"from scratch" with an HTML program such as BBEdit); before uploading make
sure you have linked the "new" index to your "startup" Reunion web page
(again, for me, this is the TOC). I use Fetch to upload; however, GeoCities
offers its own program for uploading; you can also use your browser to upload
to your site. See what's offered by the server.
I *think* this is what you were concerned with. . . am I right?
Additionally, GenWeb offers unlimited web site space for strictly
genealogical sites -- that's what I use for my genealogy site -- it's the best
deal around!
Yours, Lorelei Gustafson
lgus@xxxx_net
family http://www.geocities.com/heartland/garden/2190
genealogy http://genweb.net/~kendall
------------------------------
Date: May 25, 1999
From: Jess Epps
Subject: Some Observations and Problems:
The "UID" field is too short and will only show 11 places. Even then,
when printing printing a Family Card Sheet with more than 9 places in
the UID, the UID prints (unsightly) OVER the Changed: Date field. This
should be easy to fix as "Changed: Date" and "Mark" fields are longer
than necessary.
I second the motion for a printed Manual and would (reluctantly) pay for
one. The overhead of opening into a memory intensive browser that
insists on connecting to the Internet is cumbersome, to say the least.
On my system, The OS uses 25 MB, Netscape Navigator uses 22 MB, Remote
Access uses 436 KB and Reunion uses 4.1 MB for a total of 51.5 MB
WITHOUT using Super Chart, a word processor or printing anything. Doing
ALL of this maxes out my 64 MB of RAM. Reunion "System Requirements"
does NOT mention this.
I have successfully opened Reunion Help in iCab v1.5, but ONLY if I
launch iCab first and THEN open Reunion Help FROM iCab. I have tried to
open Reunion Help in iCab FROM Reunion, without success. And yes, I did
select it from Options -> Reports, which, by the way, is NOT intuitive.
I got gibberish.
According to Apple TechNote 1163 on Mac OS 8.6, the "Help Viewer" is a
lightweight HTML -rendering application (Browser). I would like to see
Reunion "Help" open from it using Apple Help Menu.
The "Manual" does not illustrate what an "Hourglass" Relative Chart is,
leaving it to the imagination. When I attempt to create one, I get a
Left-to-Right or Top-to-Bottom Chart only that looks just like other
charts.
I second the motion for a "Fan Chart" layout, imagination working again.
Jess Epps
Reunion v6.0.2
Apple PowerMac 6500/300 with 64 MB RAM
Mac OS 8.6
Epson 1520 ink-jet printer
------------------------------
Date: May 25, 1999
From: Michael
Subject: Sources
Tricia
How does one combine duplicate sources after one has imported or merged
two gedcoms?
Michael Wolfe
------------------------------
Date: May 26, 1999
From: lawson
Subject: Re: Find and Mark Almost Anything
On 05/26/1999, Tricia wrote:
***
>Mark everyone in the family file, choose Find -> Mark Groups, and then
>delete the unmarked people, choose Find -> Delete People.
***
Thanks; 441 family cards with no spouses disappeared, as desired. I knew
Mark Everyone wouldn't mark cards with no people, but didn't know that
delete unmarked people would delete non-peopled unmarked cards.
***
>Unfortunately, there's no way to automatically find the people with
>multiple events.
***
Needless to say (but I will, anyway), this is now on my wish list for next
version.
Steve
Stephen M. Lawson Port Orchard, WA USA <Steve@xxxxxx_net>
Family Kinnexions: http://Steve.Lawson.net eFax: 508-627-7773
------------------------------
Date: May 26, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Find and Mark Almost Anything
On May 22, Steve <lawson@xxxxxx_com> wrote...
***
> How does one delete these empty Family Cards without
> going to the card, dragging it to the trash, and
> returning to the report to repeat the sequence over 450 times?
***
Mark everyone in the family file, choose Find -> Mark Groups, and then
delete the unmarked people, choose Find -> Delete People.
***
> is there any way to locate several hundred such persons
> except by either opening each of the 9000 plus cards and
> looking under each tab, or by printing Person Reports
> for everyone in the file?
***
Unfortunately, there's no way to automatically find the people with
multiple events.
To narrow down the list, you could use Find Anything to search for Changed
Date, is, "enter the date you merged the people."
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 26, 1999
From: Jackie Whedbee
Subject: Re: him/her
How does one deal with a person born male - that is now a female?
My solution is to enter their birth name/gender and then put the name
change in the notes . . .but then everyone says "Where is Brook?" and who
is Brian? He did not hmm . . . change his gender. . . until he was 30 or
so. If I have him/her on the female side on the chart now . . how do I . .
. oh well , I guess I am more confused than he was/she is . . . at least
she knows what she is . . .
Which brings up the issue of a spouse of the same gender . . . I pointed
out to my sister that it is illegal in every state . . . but in reality a
significant life partner is still a significant life partner . . . And if
Brian/Brook gets married it will now be to a male . . .
Any suggestions?
------------------------------
Date: May 26, 1999
From: RayFwa
Subject: Re: Kissin Cousins in Charts
In a message dated 5/26/99 9:07:50 PM, Glenn Frank writes:
***
>Here is my wish for a future Super-chart program:
>
>Is there any possiblity that the next upgrade of Superchart
>could include a feature where one could force superchart to
>show certain intermarried cousins' ancestors in one place
>(as apposed to duplicating names of common parents)?
>
>For instance... My mom and dad have common ansestry because
>a pair of sisters several generations back married into both
>sides of my family line. Then my parrents married, which gives
>me one less set of GG grandparents than most...
>(a person would normally have 8 pairs of GG grandparents, But
>I only have 7 because one family is on both my mother's and
>father's side).
***
The occurrence described by Glenn Frank is not only not uncommon; such
occurrences should be found many times over in virtually every family tree of
British descent if it is traced back far enough o and he should be glad that
is the case. Otherwise the population of England alone at the time of William
the Conqueror would have had to have totalled billions upon billions instead
of the few millions that was the actual case. I suspect his proposal would
introduce difficult problems of presentation if spread over a sufficient
number of generations; or if only parts of a tree were represented by
graphics.
Ray Walker
------------------------------
Date: May 26, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Most recent source order
On May 24, Edgar Dohmann <edohmann@xxxxxxxxxxx_com> wrote...
***
> I get a Scroll Down box with the cursor sitting on "New
> Source" - directly below that is "Existing Source" and
> directly below that is my 5 most recently used sources
> with the latest one used at the top of the list.
>
> I am using Reunion 6.02 on a G3/266 at home and a
> 7300/200 at home; both with OS 8.5 and 17" monitors.
> Perhaps the monitor is the secret? Maybe Tricia can
> shed some light on why this feature works differently
> on some systems.
***
We're not sure why it's working differently for some people. Perhaps the
problem is with the monitor resolution, system software, or even a system
extension.
For those of you that are having to scroll up the Add Source pop-up menu,
try turning off extensions to see if you can duplicate this. If you can
duplicate it, send an e-mail to <help@xxxxxxxxxx_com> and let us know your
system software and monitor resolution.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 26, 1999
From: Tricia Dovenspike
Subject: Re: Sources
There's no way to automatically merge the duplicate sources.
To manually merge sources, choose List -> Sources, select the source you
want to remove, and click Show Links. Mark everyone in the list. You'll
have to add the correct source to the appropriate fields. To quickly insert
the previous citation, use the Command-r keyboard shortcut.
If you're using version 5, you should delete the old citation number after
you add the new one.
If you're using Reunion 6, you can add the new citation and then return to
the Source List window. When you delete the source, you'll have the option
to delete the source and all the citations.
Tricia Dovenspike
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: May 26, 1999
From: Ellen Mahaffy
Subject: Security issues
I am helping my uncle publish his genealogy in book form that would be
sold to family members and possibly anyone else who might be interested.
There is a issue of concern that has come up in terms of biographical
data of the living, birth dates, names, and photos of individuals, if
this data fell into the wrong hands would that person have enough info
to gain accsess to ie. bank accounts, cds...?
TIA
Ellen
------------------------------
Date: May 26, 1999
From: HowellDK
Subject: Security Issues
Dear Ellen,
I'll share a wonderful article about privacy issues and genealogy, written by
Tim Harris of the TXGenWeb:
"We should each do our part to protect our family members.
The ease of accessibility on the Internet is a strong reason to respect the
privacy of our living family members. Never place information on the Internet
about anyone who is still living, unless you have their permission to do so.
Please respect everyone's privacy and use common sense when placing
information on the web.
If you care enough about your family to search for ancestors, please care
enough to protect the descendants.
Here are a few ways you can help:
* When requesting information [via e-mail, chat, queries, etc...], don't
include personal information on living persons.
* When responding to requests for information, especially to someone you
don't really know, don't provide them with personal information on living
persons. They could post it on the web or do who knows what else with it.
* When sharing GEDCOM files with others, remove information on all living
persons before your share the file. Again, information you share could end up
on somebody's web site somewhere. Programs like GEDClean , GEDLiving , and
GEDPrivy can help automate this otherwise tedious task. If you are thinking
about starting your own genealogy web site, visit sites like Cyndi's
Genealogy Home Page Construction Kit. It is not only helpful in creating a
site, but also addresses the responsibilities that go along with it. If you
already have a genealogy web site, check your site and remove information on
all living persons.
* Be living person aware as you add new information to your site. If you are
not sure about something, when in doubt, take it out.
Learn more about privacy on the Internet and visit the Computer Professionals
for Social Responsibility web site.
A Responsible Net begins with Responsible People"
Ellen, think about what is required to obtain a driver's license in some
states - hat many consider to be de facto identification. A birth
certificate, right? How can you get one? By knowing a person's birth date,
birth place, and maother's maiden name -- all which can be gleaned from an
unsanitized gedcom, web site, or published family history. Now, many states
will not mail birth certificates out unless the subject was born 50 years ago
or more - but this isn't always the case. I had no problem having a third
party obtain my mother's birth certificate on my behalf in Texas (I won't say
exactly where).
If you are still insisting on listing information on the living, then you owe
it to those people to get their permission -- in writing -- first. If that
person is a victim of true name fraud as a result of your publication, at
least they cannot blame you. They gave their permission. But you do owe it to
them all to ask permission, and educate them on true name fraud. To me, it's
just not worth the risk.
Warm regards,
Kristen Howell
Misawa Air Base, Japan
http://www.geocities.com/~dkhowell
----------------------------------------------------------------------
5/26/99
------------------------------
Date: May 26, 1999
From: steve
Subject: sources
Sayeth Linda Roberts <LinRoberts@xxx_com> on 5/25/99 2:00 PM:
***
> I also thought I had to have a way to sort sources. But if you
> just open the list of sources, you can do a search on anything
> you want. For instance, I do a search on CD and find all the
> sources that point to a CD. Or a search on Bedford will show me
> all the sources for Bedford County, VA.
***
I disagree that your solution solves the problem. The idea is that for
some tasks I want to see the sources listed by author, sometimes by date,
or by publisher or whatever. Actually, a list of sources, in the order
they were entered, is probably the most usless of any possible sorting
method. The use of find is an extra, time-consuming, step that does not
always solve the problem. Being able to say "sort by author" and have a
properly sorted list every time I open sources would be a god-send! STEVE
------------------------------
Date: May 27, 1999
From: John Dornheim
Subject: Filling fields
I was wondering if there is a way to fill fields rather than one by one.
For instance, having discovered that an entire four generations of
people were Lutheran can I find a way to enter it once for everyone or
once for each.
Secondly, I noticed that one needs to add ythe Baptism field. How does
one preset for it to show up?
Thanks,
John Dornheim
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Date: May 27, 1999
From: SianiPowys
Subject: Importing GEDCOM with NOTES > 64K
Hello, List & LeisterPro
For the last several days, a week?, another REUNION 6 user and I have been
trying to crack a GED file with no success, no matter how much RAM is
allocated. He has a G3 with 256 MB RAM so plenty has been thrown at the
problem. Error 2, error 12 and system freezes.
He first traced the problem to lengthy SOURce documents that way, way
exceeded 64K in length. (Add to R7 wish list: increase or eliminate that
maximum). Having stripped these out with a text editor (BBEdit, I think) he
still cannot import it.
Has anyone else encountered this problem, and better yet, come up with a
solution? And even better than that, Tricia, can I send the ZIPed GED file
to you for a technical analysis? ZIPed it is 1.4 MB, expanded it is about
7.2 MB, with maybe 13,000 individuals. This isn't the largest file either of
us has dealt with (try 80,000 people!), so size isn't the issue.
Question is, what IS the issue?
TIA
Jan Williams
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Date: May 27, 1999
From: jimpres
Subject: Monitor
Armand,
I would buy any brand as long as the tube was made by Sony. Sony makes the
CRTs for most monitors. I have an Applevision 19 " on my G3 workstation and its a great tube. I have had the system for over a year now with NO problems. I installed a ZIP drive on my machine for downloading files.
I know there are some flat panel (LCD) screens out but don't know about the
reliability. I would think they would be fine since most laptops use them. I
think apple has one about 15".
Jim
San Diego
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Date: May 27, 1999
From: armand.gutierrez
Subject: New Monitor Suggestions
Fellow Genealogists:
Although this is not a true Reunion-related problem, I would like to ask the
Reunion community for some advice on selecting a new monitor. I am currently
using Reunion V5.0 on an old Mac IIsi with a 13" high-resolution Apple
monitor. Although the computer is of vintage-age it has served me well and I
haven't had any problems with my family database. However, last week my
monitor decided to call it quits and I am now looking at replacing it with a
new monitor. My plans were to buy a new G3 (or possibly a G4) later this
year, along with a 17" or 19" monitor. Looks like I need to get the monitor
now instead of later. I would appreciate any recommendations or advice.
Thanks,
Armand Gutierrez
armand.gutierrez@xxxx_com (work)
gutierreza@xxxxxxxxx_net (home)
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Date: May 27, 1999
From: glennfrank
Subject: Re: him/her
Jackie Whedbee wrote:
***
> How does one deal with a person born male - that is now a female?
***
how about making the Gender UNKNOWN in Reunion? In any case I think you will
have to use the note field to indicate a gender change operation.
***
> Which brings up the issue of a spouse of the same gender
> . . . I pointed out to my sister that it is illegal in
> every state . . . but in reality a significant life
> partner is still a significant life partner . . . And if
> Brian/Brook gets married it will now be to a male . . .
***
You can force Reunion to designate same gender partners on a family page....
just change each person's gender in their individule gender settings.
Sincerely,
Glenn Frank
Family website: http://home.earthlink.net/~glennfrank
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Date: May 27, 1999
From: Frank Mitchell
Subject: Re: Merging Sources
Tricia Dovenspike <help@xxxxxxxxxx_com> suggested
***
> There's no way to automatically merge the duplicate sources.
>
> To manually merge sources, choose List -> Sources, select the source you
> want to remove, and click Show Links. Mark everyone in the list. You'll
> have to add the correct source to the appropriate fields. To quickly insert
> the previous citation, use the Command-r keyboard shortcut.
> If you're using version 5, you should delete the old citation number after
> you add the new one.
> If you're using Reunion 6, you can add the new citation and then return to
> the Source List window. When you delete the source, you'll have the option
> to delete the source and all the citations.
***
The trouble with deleting all at the end is that if you haven't found all
old occurrences first you may finish up with no source in some cases.
I prefer to delete the old as I add the new (as in Reunion 5), and then
do another Show Links to see if there are of the old ones I missed.
Invariably there are a few.
Frank
Frank Mitchell, Scottsdale, Arizona
fmitchel@xxxx_org
Fax: (480) 951-5249
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Date: May 28, 1999
From: SYLVIA BELGODERE
Subject: Cascading pedigrees
Help!
I'm having trouble with the cascading pedigrees of Reunion 5. On the
monitor they appear one on top of the other and the same happens in the
printout. What is the problem and how can I fix it?
Sylvia
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Date: May 28, 1999
From: steve
Subject: he/r
Sayeth Jackie Whedbee <magenta@xxxxxxxx_net> at
ReunionTalk@xxxx_LeisterPro.com on 5/27/99 2:01 PM:
***
> How does one deal with a person born male - that is now a female?
***
Chromosomeally, this person remains male. Such genetic tinkering as
"truly" changing the sex of a person is, so far, beyond our capability.
So the person remains a male in the genealogy. Appropriate notes could be
made in medical history section to relate the event. The name change, if
any, would be entered exactly as you would any other (a similar entry in
my records would show the given name as: Brian/Brook.) Currently, while
this is a significant psychological, social and medical event in a
persons life, it does not change genetic passage and therefore is of
little more interest that most any other type of major/plastic surgery.
Genetically, this person has not changed their sex, "just" their sexual
orientation.
***
> Which brings up the issue of a spouse of the same gender... I
> pointed out to my sister that it is illegal in every state... but
> in reality a significant life partner is still a significant life partner.
***
Which is what we are recording, and is another excellent reason for the
LeisterFolk to redo the "Marriage" section and turn it into the
"Relationship" section with more appropriate and flexible types,
including some definable by the user.
***
> And if Brian/Brook gets married it will now be to a male...
***
or not.... How are you going to handle it if Brian/Brook marries
Maryann/George? <evil grin>
STEVE
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Date: May 28, 1999
From: Dolores Desideri
Subject: Multimedia
Saw a PC multimedia presentation on genealogy. Speaker created a photo
album on a program called Montage by Harvard Montage Software. Also
talked about a program called Hyper Studio for creating an interactive
genealogy presentation. I understand Hyper Studio is available for Macs
but does anyone know of a "photo album" program that allows you to
manage a large number of scanned in photographs?
------------------------------
Date: May 28, 1999
From: steve
Subject: Multimedia
Sayeth Dolores Desideri <dolores@xxxx_com> on 5/28/99 1:57 PM:
***
> Saw a PC multimedia presentation on genealogy. Speaker created a
> photo album on a program called Montage by Harvard Montage
> Software. Also talked about a program called Hyper Studio for
> creating an interactive genealogy presentation. I understand
> Hyper Studio is available for Macs but does anyone know of a
> "photo album" program that allows you to manage a large number of
> scanned in photographs?
***
Not extactly what you're looking for, but there is an excellent shareware
program called "iView" available from:
Yan Calotychos <yan@xxxxxxxx_demon.co.uk>.
This program allows you to creat catalogues of your graphics (of all
sorts) and manipulate their names and sorting and storage locations and
such with ease. This program is available on most of the shareware sites,
as are various photo presentation programs, none of who's names I can
remember right now... <G> STEVE
------------------------------
Date: May 28, 1999
From: SianiPowys
Subject: Opening RTF (Rich Text Format) files
In a message dated 5/28/99 5:10:18 PM, Coradean Naylor writes:
***
> I was sent and "rtf" file recently and my Mac won't open it. My
> Mac opens most any file so I was surprised that his didn't open.
***
I see RTF as an intermediate text format state between what the sender uses
and mine, and the application that is chosed to open it (in my case,
ClarisWorks 4) has the burden of completing the conversion. ClarisWorks
comes with its own translators and I have DataVis' MacLink+ 9.7 to handle
everything else including most graphics. Check your File Exchange Control
Panel and see what helper applications you have available. And note the ADD
... button if you know you have apps that File Exchange isn't 'finding'.
:-)
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Date: May 28, 1999
From: PaperHeath
Subject: Privacy...
The article written on privacy was very good. But I thought I'd point out
that the programs that were listed for cleaning up gedcoms are all PC based.
Luckilly, Reunion does a pretty good job of allowing the user to respect the
privacy of others. One problem that should be fixed is that if you chose the
privacy feature, you must turn off the dates option in index. Because even
though living persons will be marked private, the information withheld in the
report is still published in the Index.
Thanks for the wonderful article. There is also a new website, called
Internet Genealogists for Quality, and though they are primarily concerned
with accuracy, they also have information on privacy. I forgot the url, but I
think this website has a link:
http://www.ancestordetective.com/watchdog.htm
Thanks again for the great article.
April
------------------------------
Date: May 28, 1999
From: Ian Henzel
Subject: Re: Him/Her
***
>Which brings up the issue of a spouse of the same gender . . . I pointed
>out to my sister that it is illegal in every state . . . but in reality a
>significant life partner is still a significant life partner . . . And if
>Brian/Brook gets married it will now be to a male . . .
***
This is fairly easy to do. Reunion assumes that the genders of a couple are
male and female, however you can go into one of the pair and change their
gender. Then in marriage information you can indicate that the union was
"common law" Everything else, children, etc would be handled as for any
other couple.
------------------------------
Date: May 28, 1999
From: lawson
Subject: Re: Him/Her
I suppose I might as well jump into this topic, using the fictitious names
of Joan and John, and and jane and Joe. Joan was married twice, with two
children, say Jane and Joe, by her second husband. Joan was divorced and
had a gender change to become John, the single parent of Jane and Joe.
Noting that I had not come across any Alien Abductees among my kin (yet), I
changed that Child Status to Gender Changed. I then:
Created Joan as a daughter and John as a son of the parents of Joan/John.
Assigned Child Status of Gender Changed for both Joan and John.
Added Note explaining two names were the same person.
Added husbands for Joan and children, Jane and Joe, by her second husband.
Duplicated child buttons for Jane and Joe with John as father.
Though this does show an additional child for the parents of Joan/John, it
also clearly differentiates between Joan and John. And the relationship
between John and his children, Jane and Joe, appears as expressly desired
by their parent, while maintaining the link to their biological father and
mother.
Steve
Stephen M. Lawson Port Orchard, WA USA <Steve@xxxxxx_net>
Family Kinnexions: http://Steve.Lawson.net eFax: 508-627-7773
------------------------------
Date: May 28, 1999
From: Mike Stupinski
Subject: Re: Multimedia
I'm not quite sure whether you want to keep track of the locations, or
do a slide show of the photos. If you want to keep track of the images,
I would suggest 'Portfolio', by Extensis. That's what I use, and with
it I can tell just where both my genealogy pictures and scanned
documents have been saved. I also print out a hardcopy catalog and keep
it in the front of the binders where I file my information.
It requires Photoshop (or, perhaps, another program which can use
Photoshop plug-ins), but you may well have such a program if you are
scanning stuff anyway.
(BTW, if you are doing slide shows you may want to look into 'Show' by
MetaTools.)
Mike
------------------------------
Date: May 28, 1999
From: Sharon Thomas
Subject: Re:"Never Married"
On 27 May 1999 "Cynthia H. Porcher" <chollp@xxxxxxxxx_net>
wrote:
***
> "Never Married" I would like to see an add on label for "Never Married" that
> can be added like "No Children." If we know that a particular person never
> married, then that would be a great marker instead of adding a mention of it
> in the notes.
***
The work around on this is to use the "Married", but then put the words
"Never Married" in the place section. You will then see it on the marriage
bar.
Sharon Thomas
Cobb County Georgia GenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacobb2/
Cobb County Georgia Genealogical Society, Inc.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~gaccgs/
Thomas Family Homepage http://www.stsi.net/~semper73/
------------------------------
Date: May 28, 1999
From: Coradean Naylor
Subject: rtf files
This has probably been discussed before... but it didn't pertain to me then
so I probably ignored it.
I was sent and "rtf" file recently and my Mac won't open it. My Mac opens
most any file so I was surprised that his didn't open.
Thanks for any help.
Coradean Naylor
------------------------------
Date: May 31, 1999
From: William M. MacDonald
Subject: Displaying a picture
I am suddenly unable to use the Multimedia window display a picture for me
in the window that shows myself and my wife. I have even tried linking to
pictures that are successfully displayed on the pages for my sons, but I can
not get any picture to be displayed for me. I have no problem displaying a
picture for my wife. When I ask the Multimedia window to open the picture
that I have chosen for myself (and set as the preferred one), Reunion opens
the link and displays the picture. But after I close the multimedia window,
the preferred picture for me is not displayed. Have I somehow disabled the
showing of a picture for me?
William M. MacDonald
Internet: wm2@xxxxx_umd.edu
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Date: May 31, 1999
From: James E. Bradley
Subject: Family Group Sheets vs Person Sheets
Whoa there! Have I been asleep or what?
Today I needed to update some data and print a Family Group Sheet (FGS) to
replace the previous one. What happened next is shock. I asked for a FGS
and what did I get? Not the printed sheet with the neat border all the way
around but the ugly sheet with the funky dashed lines across it. The FGS
that I was replacing was printed last August and it used the bordered
page. Not only that, but the Person Sheet now prints the sheet with the
border, BUT it only lists the children - that is right - only lists the
children. The funky FGS is where the details on birth, death, marriage,
and spouse are listed.
Why wasn't the previous version left alone? What makes the NOW better than
the PRIOR??
Sorry if this sounds harsh, but I'm piqued.
Jim Bradley
jamesb@xxxxxx_net
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