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ReunionTalk Digest messages for April 2004
Date: April 01, 2004
From: Mike Horst
Subject: Re: linking members already in your family file
Robin Poupore <nuts4dvc@xxxxxxxxx_net> wrote:
> I recently had to add family members from another branch of the family.
> While doing so I needed to bring a spouse I already had in my datebase
> and attach this person to her. How do I do this? I don't want to create
> two of the same person.
If you wish to link two people as spouses, and they are already in
your family file, try the following. Go to the family card for one of
them and choose Existing Spouse from the Add pop-up menu (the green
plus) above the person's name. Select the spouse from the list
provided and click Link. This will connect the two of them as
spouses, without creating any duplicate entries.
You can also make connections to "existing" parents and children,
using a similar method.
Mike Horst
Leister Productions, Inc.
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From: Mike Horst
Subject: Re: Resizing Notes window
Paula Goodfellow <aluap@xxxxxxxx_net> wrote:
> Is there anyway to make the Notes window larger? I write quite a bit of
> information in my Notes, and it's kind of a pain to scroll through the
> little teeny window looking for what I need.
Are you referring to the Notes tab in the Edit Person window, where
you enter notes for a person?
If so, you can enlarge the entire Edit Person window, and this will
make the Notes section larger. You can also use the Hide Source
Citations button at the bottom of the window to hide the source
citations and provide more space for the notes to be shown.
Mike Horst
Leister Productions, Inc.
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Date: April 01, 2004
From: Bob White
Subject: Re: Mac to PC to Mac
Jeffrey Scott <jscott321@xxxxxxxxx_net> wrote:
> My wife and I use Mac. Our kids use PC's. Does anyone know how to
> easily transfer our genealogy from our Mac to our kids PC's so that
> they can have the benefit of our work?
>
> Jeff
Assuming that they have genealogy software on their PC, create a GEDCOM
file. Go to the File menu, choose Import/Export and in the sub-menu
that pops up, choose Export GEDCOM. They will be able to import the
file into their program.
If they don't have genealogy software, I would recommend that you
create a Register Report (under the Create menu). This creates a
genealogy report in your word processor (MS Word, AppleWorks, etc.) and
is an easy to understand format for "civilians" and provides most of
the information you have stored. Don't forget to add the appropriate
ending to the file name (e.g. ".doc" or ".txt") so that their Windoze
machine can figure out what type of document it is.
Bob White**************Membership Chair
MacNexus: Sacramento's Macintosh User Group
(916) 363-7115***bobwhite@xxxxxxxx_org
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Date: April 01, 2004
From: ROMAD
Subject: Re: Mac to PC to Mac
Jeffrey Scott <jscott321@xxxxxxxxx_net> wrote:
> My wife and I use Mac. Our kids use PC's. Does anyone know how to
> easily transfer our genealogy from our Mac to our kids PC's so that
> they can have the benefit of our work?
First, my sympathy, as it must hurt to see your kids go astray. The
only solution that comes to mind is Gedcom. Unfortunately, genealogy
programs aren't supported by file conversion programs like MacLink
Plus.
Sincerely,
Dennis B. Swaney
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Date: April 01, 2004
From: Joe Swann
Subject: Re: Mac to PC to Mac
> My wife and I use Mac. Our kids use PC's. Does anyone know how to
> easily transfer our genealogy from our Mac to our kids PC's so that
> they can have the benefit of our work?
State in your will that your kids must switch to Mac for life before
they can receive their inheritance!?!
Back to reality, export your data as a GEDCOM and send it to them via
email, CD-ROM, etc. That will get all the basics across.
You could also have Reunion create a web site of your entire family
file and publish that to a CD-ROM. Any web browser on any system could
read that. This would be more "Reunionlike" but not editable.
Joe Swann
Computer Technician & Webmaster
Robertson County Schools
http://www.robcoschools.org/
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Date: April 01, 2004
From: DAVO
Subject: Re: Compiler Identification on FGS Sheets
DAVO <doxner@xxxxxxxxx_net> wrote:
> You might try composing a template in MS Word which has only a footer
> with your compiler information and print sheets with this information
> only. Then prepare a FGS and print it on the sheet with the previously
> printed footer. Because the title of the FGS is a header in MS Word I'm
> assuming that Word will leave enough space at the bottom of the report
> for the footer. Then again it might not so perhaps an experiment is in
> order!
The suggestions to use Report Options is certainly a much easier
approach to including this information in reports. My little workaround
is useful if one wants to include this information on each page of the
report. When trying this yesterday I also realized that the compiler
information (or any other data) can be added to the footer (or header)
in MS Word AFTER the report is produced, which eliminates the need to
print footers on blank sheets. Editing the headers and footers in Word
is very easy. For instance, I also like to add a date of the report in
the header.
Dave Ochsner
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Date: April 01, 2004
From: Henry Oddie
Subject: Re: Mac Programs for Literary Research
Many thanks to all who sent suggestions to myself or the List on this
topic. They have given me much to think about. I shall certainly be
having a look at Bygones I hadn't known about this program nor its
affinity to FileMaker which I had considered but wondered if it might
be overkill for my purposes. A couple of people mentioned StickyBrain 2
which I have acquired and am learning about. It is certainly a great
note-taking program because it is so amenable to the acquisition of
different types of data and has a powerful search facility. I have just
used it to pull out all the stored replies to this theme. However, from
what people have said, it is clearly not as sophisticated as Bygones
appears to be.
Most suggestion were sent - appropriately - directly to this list so I
needn't enumerate them here but one that came directly to me by Carl
Vitevitch mentioned the useful site:
http://guide.apple.com/ussoftware.lasso
which gave 10 results when <bibliographies> is used as the search term.
He also mentioned EndNote:
http://www.endnote.com
which sounds useful for assembling references.
Thanks again to all who helped with suggestions.... and please contact
me directly if you have any further ideas!
Henry
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Date: April 01, 2004
From: Bev Anderson
Subject: Mac to PC to Mac
A little "pen drive" with a USB port would be ideal to transfer compatible
files from Mac to PC to Mac.
I have an iBook (two USB ports), and when I bought a USB hub for my PC
a few months ago it had come with a long extra cord suitable for USB port
(and didn't have a use for it at the time). I now have the long cord
attached to the hub on the back of my PC, the other end of which hangs
through the top of my computer desk so I don't have to duck under the
computer desk every time I use it. Recently I bought a little "Lexar Jump
Drive" (128MB capacity- under $35), and I transfer my Reunion created web
site to the PC (just attach it to the USB port on the cord) so I can edit
the web site in FrontPage and upload it to my ISPs server. I suspect you
could use something similar to transfer GEDCOM files. I've used it to
transfer image files back and forth between computers, too. I do know
there are pen drives (or whatever term they are called - I saw several with
different names) that come without memory cards, and the cost of the memory
cards more than doubles the price. The little Lexar Jump Drive fits in the
palm of my hand - could be easy to lose! :-)
Good Luck!
Bev Anderson
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Date: April 01, 2004
From: Lynton & Bronte Gould
Subject: Ethernet Transfer of Information
Sometime ago I wrote re my woes with regards to a USB Flashdrive. Now I
have managed to network the G4 iBook running Panther to the G4 desktop
running OS 9.2 and have transferred some Reunion files across to the iBook.
I thought all was well until I checked the sources and noted the list was
empty. Why won't sources transfer across? Also anyone sitting in the
clipboard are missing from the transferred file? There is not a problem by
using a CD (an old backup copy made in July last year before the burner
would no longer respond).
Bronte Gould
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Date: April 01, 2004
From: Paula Goodfellow
Subject: Re: Resizing Notes Window
Mike Horst <help@xxxxxxxxxx_com> replied:
> Paula Goodfellow <aluap@xxxxxxxx_net> wrote:
>
> > Is there anyway to make the Notes window larger?
>
> ...you can enlarge the entire Edit Person window, and this will
> make the Notes section larger. You can also use the Hide Source
> Citations button at the bottom of the window to hide the source
> citations and provide more space for the notes to be shown.
I could swear that I had tried resizing that window and didn't get it
to work, but it works now. Hiding the sources also helped. Thanks, Paula
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Date: April 01, 2004
From: Tim Davis
Subject: Re: Mr Sid
Hi everyone,
Here's a followup on my experience since last discussed. I never got
Mr Sid working in OS X on a G4 iMac. When I installed Panther on my G5
(after Mr Sid was already installed), Mr Sid started working using
Safari or MSIE in OS X for the first time. After trying to figure out
why the plugin works within these browsers and fiddling with the
settings (to try to recreate it), it suddenly stopped working in
Safari, but still worked in MSIE. After a recent upgrade, I think it
was 10.3.2 (not 10.3.3), Mr Sid started working again in Safari. (I'm
not going to mess with it again.) This is all native OS X, not Classic.
It doesn't sort-of work, it works perfectly, and fast. I'm not the only
person who has experienced this, check the list archives. I can send
screen shots off-list of it working if you would like an example. I
know its not supposed to work, and that OS X and Safari are not
supported by LizardTech, and that's too bad. The fact that it works may
be due to something Apple is doing in their installer. I'm simply
reporting an experience, not trying to frustrate anyone, and it may
work for even more users. If you have Panther (and maybe G5), give it a
try, it just might work for you. Otherwise, I'm sure everyone would
appreciate continued alternative census viewing suggestions.
Tim Davis
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Date: April 02, 2004
From: Steve W. Jackson
Subject: Re: Web card problem
Craig TenBroeck <CraigTen@xxx_com> wrote:
> I am trying to create one of my family files on a web site or on a CD
> for distribution to my relatives. I followed the instructions but when I
> opened it on the CD or on my browser I found several hundred icons of all
> the individual pieces of data. The recipients have no idea as to where to
> go to open up the family cards. I had hoped that when the site was
> selected it would open up with the cover page. What am I doing wrong and
> how do I correct it?
Craig,
First, it sounds as if you may have Reunion set to create a "flat web
project" with all files in one folder. Personally, I recommend
against that and suggest you leave it set to create folders. It's
much cleaner that way, in my opinion.
Regardless of that setting, I think the other problem is likely
related to the name of the "contents" file to be opened. Many web
servers are set up to automatically use a file named "index" or
"default" (with the appropriate suffix, of course). One example is
.Mac, where my web site automatically opens if I visit
<http://homepage.mac.com/stevejackson/> because the file is named
index.html as expected by the server. Reunion will let you name the
contents page using one of these if you wish, or it will even prompt
you when creating your Web Family Cards for the filename to use. But
if you're putting these onto a CD, there's no automatic file opened
in any event. And even if the web server on a web site has a
"preference" for filenames, you can still use the default name
Reunion assigns and simply include it in the URL you provide. For
Web Family Cards, it will be named WC_TOC.HTM (or HTML), or in lower
case if you prefer, etc. So you can simply tell people to point
their web browsers to http://mysite.com/WC_TOC.HTM, for instance, and
it will work.
If you're distributing a CD to family members, I suggest considering
a separate file, perhaps named something like "open_me_first.html" or
something you think will be obvious to them. Regardless of platform
(Mac or PC, that is), opening that file by double-click will open it
with their preferred web browser. You could design it as a
description/introduction page if you like, with a link to the actual
"TOC" page, or simply as a redirection to the other one with no
delay, thus making it seem transparent. Or you might provide a short
text description in such a file (perhaps in the ubiquitous PDF
format) describing what's on the CD and telling them to double-click
a specific file.
= Steve =
--
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
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Date: April 02, 2004
From: stephen sherlock
Subject: Mac to Mac
Greetings from Japan,
Could anyone help me please ?
I've got an iMac Indigo running 9.1 and am using Reunion 8.05. A few days
ago I bought a new iMac G4 20" running "Panther".
How do I transfer all my information from my Indigo to my G4 ?
Many thanks for any help you maybe able to give me.
Best wishes
Stephen Sherlock
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Date: April 02, 2004
From: Normand Frenette
Subject: Accents in the Find commands
I've just discovered that the use of accents influences the behaviour of
the find commands in Reunion.
The ordinary "find" command treats vowels with diacritical marks as
functionally equivalent so that an e or an acute-e or a e-grave are all
found under the same command. This is especially useful for finding people
whose names change only superficially in the course of their lifetime when
they emigrate to English-speaking countries, for example.
On the other hand, the "find anything" command treats the vowels as as
functionally different, so that if you are looking for someone and you
don't have the precise accent that the name was registered with, you'll
not find them. Unless of course you do the search as often as there are
alternate spellings for the name.
I would much prefer the first solution in any further upgrades. Perhaps
others might find a use for the second.
Normand Frenette
St. Catharines, ON L2R 6P1
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Date: April 02, 2004
From: John Hill
Subject: Re: Mac to PC to Mac
On Thursday, April 1, 2004, Joe Swann <swannj1@xxxxxxxx_ten.k12.tn.us>
wrote:
> > My wife and I use Mac. Our kids use PC's. Does anyone know how to
> > easily transfer our genealogy from our Mac to our kids PC's so that
> > they can have the benefit of our work?
>
> State in your will that your kids must switch to Mac for life before
> they can receive their inheritance!?!
>
> Back to reality, export your data as a GEDCOM and send it to them via
> email, CD-ROM, etc. That will get all the basics across.
This is the technique that I've used. But it can have problems. Both my
wife and my son use Personal ancestral file (PAF), and when I export a
GEDCOM from Reunion to one of them they get a string of error reports
as long as your arm. In fact, if I export the entire file (and it's
only some 1500 names) there are close on 2000 errors!
Most of these are associated with sources in notes and sources other
than Free Form. So I have written a very basic Classic application that
will convert the GEDCOM so that most of the errors are cleared, either
be deleting the sources or converting them into a form acceptable to
PAF.
If anyone wants to try it, let me know and I'll email you a copy. It's
only 32K (and that's uncompressed). No warranties! it is, in effect
experimental software.
One caution - it doesn't like single @ symbols in e-mail addresses.
According to the GEDCOM standard, these should be converted to @@, but
Reunion 7 doesn't do this and AFAIK Reunion 8 has yet not been modified
to do so. And you can't just convert @ to @@ in the GEDCOM text file,
because there are NUMEROUS places where a single @ is correct :-(
If there's a demand, I'll try to do something about this in my
application... at present it just reports an error.
John (Bournemouth)
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Date: April 02, 2004
From: K.M. Kolk
Subject: Unmarried and No Children
I have been using Reunion 8 for about a year now, and have a couple of
questions I haven't seen answers to in the archives...
1. I want to create a Register Report. One of the people in question
had a child out-of-wedlock. When I print the report, it clearly states
that X & Y were unmarried. I want to keep this info in my database, but
prefer not to have it appear in the report, as Child is still alive,
though no longer a child, and it seems a bit insensitive &
unneccessary. Is there an easy way to leave this out, other than going
in and editing that line out before I print?
2. I have several individuals who died childless. I have marked their
card with NO CHILDREN from the Edit Children window. Now I would like
to find all the people that I know for sure had NO CHILDREN (and not
include people who may have had children that I have not yet found). I
have tried FIND ANYTHING with # Children equal 0, but that gives me
anyone with no children under their name, and not just those I have
marked as NO CHILDREN in the edit children window....hope that is clear!
Does anyone have any advice on either of these? Thanks!
Kim
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Date: April 02, 2004
From: Gary McMillian
Subject: Re: Gedcom Standard
> This is the technique that I've used. But it can have problems. Both my
> wife and my son use Personal ancestral file (PAF), and when I export a
> GEDCOM from Reunion to one of them they get a string of error reports
> as long as your arm. In fact, if I export the entire file (and it's
> only some 1500 names) there are close on 2000 errors!
>
> Most of these are associated with sources in notes and sources other
> than Free Form. So I have written a very basic Classic application that
> will convert the GEDCOM so that most of the errors are cleared, either
> be deleting the sources or converting them into a form acceptable to
> PAF.
>
> If anyone wants to try it, let me know and I'll email you a copy. It's
> only 32K (and that's uncompressed). No warranties! it is, in effect
> experimental software.
>
> One caution - it doesn't like single @ symbols in e-mail addresses.
> According to the GEDCOM standard, these should be converted to @@, but
> Reunion 7 doesn't do this and AFAIK Reunion 8 has yet not been modified
> to do so. And you can't just convert @ to @@ in the GEDCOM text file,
> because there are NUMEROUS places where a single @ is correct :-(
>
> If there's a demand, I'll try to do something about this in my
> application... at present it just reports an error.
>
> John (Bournemouth)
John,
I'm beginning to think that calling GEDCOM a 'standard' is a misnomer.
No two programs, including Reunion, interpret the standard in the same way.
My latest gripe concerns the way Reunion and RootsMagic implement the
address fields. They make different assumptions about how addresses should
work, and as a result it is impossible to exchange GEDCOM files with one of
my cousins. Does your program massage the address fields?
(While I'm complaining) Nor do I like Reunion's interpretation of the
GEDCOM standard that words MUST be broken in the middle when using CONC
statements. This makes it difficult to read the GEDCOM file, and it just
seems stupid. How do you break 'a' and 'I'? Totally incompatible with the
leading genealogy program vendor (whether you like them or not). I wonder
how many people have had their notes corrupted due to this 'standard'
interpretation?
I can understand that if a vendor implements something new and different
and outside the capability of the GEDCOM 5.5 standard then you obviously
could not use GEDCOM to export that particular data to another program.
But not being able to do the basic stuff is just incredible.
I believe genealogy programs should take the tack of importing other
vendor's files directly, not GEDCOM files, and taking responsibility for
the data exchange. Or at least provide compatibility modes for other
vendor's versions of GEDCOM.
There was an attempt to shame vendors into compliance with a GEDCOM
compliance checking program, but the larger vendors don't care if their
GEDCOM files are compatible or not, and the smaller vendors don't seem to
care too much either. I wonder if Reunion 8 would pass the compliance
test? Does Reunion even support the compliance testing effort? Plug fest
anyone?
Until people vote with their pocketbooks, vendors won't pay much attention
to the problem.
Regards,
Gary McMillian
Austin, TX
P.S. I've recently written a 'C' command line program for the Mac using
Xcode. A very nice development environment for the price (free).
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Date: April 03, 2004
From: Mike Horst
Subject: Re: Moving files
Jim <jhv@xxxxx_net> wrote:
> Can anyone tell me how to change the person file that first shows up
> when I start Reunion? (When I start it, it opens to my own file, which
> is the first one I created. I would like to have it default open to the
> file of my most ancient ancestor instead.)
The "Home Card" is the family card which Reunion goes to when you
open your family file.
To change it, go to the family card you want to be the new home card.
Then choose Options -> Startup, go to the Home tab in that window,
click the Use Current Family button, and click Save.
Mike Horst
Leister Productions, Inc.
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Date: April 03, 2004
From: Mike Horst
Subject: Re: Eliminating Lines on Family Sheets
Charnee <CharneeS@xxx_com> wrote:
> I really don't like the way Reunion prints a solid line between each
> data field in the Family Group Sheets. It's much clearer if the lines
> are only between individuals and between Notes and Sources.
The lines between fields are always used when sheets are printed
directly from Reunion. However, if you choose Create -> Family Group
Sheet, and then choose your word processor from the Destination
pop-up menu, the sheet(s) will open in your word processor. The
format used for sheets when sent to your word processor avoids the
lines around each field, and may be preferable for your needs.
Mike Horst
Leister Productions, Inc.
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Date: April 03, 2004
From: Tom Robinson
Subject: Re: Privacy filtering
> I should have thought of this BEFORE entering data, but wonder if
> there is a way of adding additional conditions to privacy filtering
> without going through each record and flagging individuals as private.
If you can do it with a find request, you can mark people as private:
1. Create your own privacy flag or use the Reunion supplied one. I have
two: one for privacy on the web, one for privacy in my booklets.
2. Go into Options -> Reports -> Privacy and select your flag under "People
with this flag set".
3. Do a find request and mark the people you wish to be private (you can do
more than one request here, just keep marking people).
4. Go into Options -> Set Flags and set your new privacy flag for all
marked people.
5. Run the report!
Cheers
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Date: April 03, 2004
From: Mike Horst
Subject: Re: Lists 101
Barbara Marsh <barbm@xxxxxxx_net> wrote:
> Back in 2000 I printed out a copy of "Lists 101" from your site. Is it
> still available and if so where? And are there any more topics?
Yes, those articles on Reunion are still available on our web site.
You can find them here...
http://www.leisterpro.com/doc/Articles.html
They are only up to date for Reunion 7, not Reunion 8. However much
of the information is still applicable and useful.
Mike Horst
Leister Productions, Inc.
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Date: April 03, 2004
From: John Ferman
Subject: Re: Confusing Relationships
AE Palmer <aepalmer@xxxxxx_com> wrote:
> Michael Padwee <mwpadwee@xxxx_com> wrote:
>
> > I am having a problem with placing the correct suffixes after certain
> > names:
> >
> > If my great-great grandfather is named Michael Wayne Padwee; his son,
> > my grandfather, is named William Michael Padwee; his son, my father,
> > is, again, named Michael Wayne Padwee; and I am Michael Wayne Padwee,
> > does my great-grandfather have the suffix "I" after his name, and,
> > skipping a generation, does my father have the suffix "II", and do I
> > have the suffix "III"? Or, am I "Junior" and is my father "Senior"?
> > Or what?
>
> Sr, Jr, I, II, III, 1, 2, 3, <A>, <B>, <C> ... My, oh my, the
> possibilities.
>
> In all probability your ancestors used the Sr-Jr combination - if at
> all. If you know for certain the terms Sr & Jr were used, the problem is
> solved for you. If on the other hand, you haven't a clue, the choice is
> entirely up to you. I typically asign "Sr" to the eldest, "Jr" to number
> two and then swtich to roman numbering thereafter. Another technique I
> sometimes use is <A>, <B>, etc. to identify different people with
> identical names within any given family. for example: if I have
> Catherine b. 1848, d. 1849 and Catherine b. 1851, d. 1900 (with at least
> one parent in common), I label them Catherine <A> and Catherine <B>.
>
> Whatever system you use, be sure to write down your methodology so that
> anyone reading your research (including yourself) 10 yrs from now will
> unterstand what you did now.
I don't know if the French did it in Europe, but the French in Canada would
sometimes attach 'dit' names. In looking over a large database from which I
am descended it appears the French-Canadians limited themselves to about 8
- 10 given names so maybe that's why they used 'dit' names. For example, in
my line there are three Jean-Baptiste Brouillets in succession. The first
ancestor to come from France was Michel Brouillet dit Laviollette and one
of his grandsons was Michel Brouillet dit Lajeunesse. In that database of
names and particulars (some 2.6 MB) I have never seen a Jr, Sr, I, II, III,
etc. I wonder if the 'dit' names might have served much the same purpose.
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Date: April 03, 2004
From: Al Poulin
Subject: Re: Confusing Relationships, "dit" names
John Ferman <ferma001@xxx_edu> wrote:
> I don't know if the French did it in Europe, but the French in Canada
> would sometimes attach 'dit' names. In looking over a large database
> from which I am descended it appears the French-Canadians limited
> themselves to about 8 - 10 given names so maybe that's why they used
> 'dit' names. For example, in my line there are three Jean-Baptiste
> Brouillets in succession. The first ancestor to come from France was
> Michel Brouillet dit Laviollette and one of his grandsons was Michel
> Brouillet dit Lajeunesse. In that database of names and particulars
> (some 2.6 MB) I have never seen a Jr, Sr, I, II, III, etc. I wonder if
> the 'dit' names might have served much the same purpose.
The French did not do it in Europe. The given names you see in your French
Canadian ancestry were apparently self-limited by the families, a common
practice. There were indeed hundreds of given names in common use.
The "dit" names were aliases, in effect, and sometimes nicknames. There is
a short discussion of dit names at the American French Genealogical Society
web site: http://www.afgs.org/ Look for "Surname Variations" in the left
column. At the same page is a link to " Given Names French-Canadian:
English Variants, Anglicization's, Latin" which perhaps shows I have just
underestimated the numbers of given names.
If you would like more information about dit names, please let me know. I
can sent you a couple threads that I have archived on the subject.
--
Al Poulin
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Date: April 03, 2004
From: Joe Swann
Subject: iBooks
On Mar 3, 2004, at 4:13 PM, William Taber wrote:
> Also, what does your OSX printer have to do with reading FTM discs?
First let me say that I am not at all familiar with anything about
Family Tree Maker or the disks it uses.
What I wanted to point out was that in my job I have run across some
applications that refuse to run or at least do certain function until a
printer is selected. Accelerated Reader is one that comes to mind at
the moment. The reason seems to be that when you have the app run a
preview on some report it is designed to interact with the printer
driver to generate the preview. I don't know these are designed like
that but they are.
Now keep in mind that when you are booted up in Mac OS X and run an app
in Classic you are still using the printer that is selected in the old
Chooser which is separate that the one set in Mac OS X. Maybe this is
the root of the problem with FTM in Classic mode.
Joe Swann
Computer Technician & Webmaster
Robertson County Schools
http://www.robcoschools.org/
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Date: April 03, 2004
From: Labor74
Subject: FTM & Mac
The FTM program done up for Mac did not have the same capabilities as those
being produced for PCs. And, though the company said there would be updates
for Mac's FTM, there NEVER were any!
I used FTM until this past September. I much prefer its outline/decendant
report -- easy to read, & takes less paper when printed. I was, & am also
using REUNION where notes & other data, as well as sources could be entered
a whole lot easier.
In September, my printer (Epsom) died. I replaced with another Epsom, but
when I did that, I lost use of FTM. Dumping it, reloading it...Just
doesn't function, i.e., cannot open at all. Thank goodness, everything is
in REUNION...& copied. I, at least, learned that thru my time with FTM.
Chris, in NY
------------------------------
Date: April 03, 2004
From: Kathleen Lenihan
Subject: Reunion vs. TMG
I recently bought an iMac and I can't decide if I should use Virtual PC to
run The Master Genealogist or switch to Reunion. I've been using TMG for
about 5 years and I love it. Is there anybody out there who made the
switch from TMG to Reunion? How do the two programs compare?
Kathleen
------------------------------
Date: April 03, 2004
From: Alain Farhi
Subject: Created by Reunion for the Macintosh
Ilene Kanfer Murray at <ilenemurray@xxxxxxxxxx_com> wrote:
> You can also go to Options/Reports/Signature to add your name instead of
> the line that says "Created by Reunion for the Macintosh"
If you that, make sure you restore "Created by Reunion for the Macintosh"
before using Steve Jackson's Folder Update software (for updating your Web
Cards folders). Unless he changed his software recently, that sentence is
required.
Regards
Alain Farhi
*********************************************
Email : alain@xxxxx_org
Web Site : http://www.farhi.org
*********************************************
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Date: April 04, 2004
From: Melinda Elmore
Subject: Re: Web Card Problem/attn: Steve W. Jackson
> If you're distributing a CD to family members, I suggest considering a
> separate file, perhaps named something like "open_me_first.html" or
> something you think will be obvious to them. Regardless of platform
> (Mac or PC, that is), opening that file by double-click will open it
> with their preferred web browser. You could design it as a
> description/introduction page if you like, with a link to the actual
> "TOC" page, or simply as a redirection to the other one with no delay,
> thus making it seem transparent.
Steve--
I think you just suggested a solution to a problem I have been trying
to think through. However, I am slow on the uptake. Could you explain
how to put a document on the CD that will "open the document with their
preferred web browser." Thanks so much in advance for your generous
willingness to help all of us.
P.S. I am trying to produce CDs of old family photographs to
distribute to family members, with supporting documentation, in a
format that will be user-friendly, cross-platform, etc. I know they
all have browsers.
Melinda
------------------------------
Date: April 04, 2004
From: Al Poulin
Subject: Re: Web & E-mail Citations for Literary Research (was Mac
Tammy Sharp <rsvstks@xxxxxxx_net> wrote:
> Here is a website citation:
> Source: Brown, Norma. Brown, Chandler, Jones, Griffen, Parr, Prine
> (updated Aug 25, 2001). Jan 29, 2004
>
<http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1552984&id=I19>
>
> and a modified email citation:
> Source: Flash, Jack. Incorrect spelling or listing in your family history
> (email). Jan 27, 2003 <jflash@xxxxxxx_com>.
I have found that many web sites and pages disappear or change locations
over a short period of time. And although I expect Rootsweb to be around
for a while, what about the contributions by individuals who may remove
them?
Since I now have plenty of hard drive space, I save the web pages that I
want never to lose. This practice has also been handy for quick looks
off-line at the data and literature. I sometimes save as a web archive.
If I copy/paste web content to Simpletext or AppleWorks, I make sure I also
copy the URL for the page(s) to the top of the document.
--
Al Poulin
------------------------------
Date: April 04, 2004
From: Al Poulin
Subject: Re: Mac to Mac
"stephen sherlock" <stephenhj@xxxxxxx_com> wrote:
> I've got an iMac Indigo running 9.1 and am using Reunion 8.05. A few
> days ago I bought a new iMac G4 20" running "Panther".
> How do I transfer all my information from my Indigo to my G4 ?
I would use an ethernet cable between the two iMacs to create a local area
network. Then use the OS 9.1 Finder Help to get an idea of how to handle
file sharing and mounting one Mac on the other's desktop. For setting up
the old iMac, the Help has a nice red arrow scheme that you can follow. I
understand that setting up the new iMac with Panther is ever easier. You
may see instructions to use a "crossover cable." But that is not necessary
since your new iMac will "autosense" the standard ethernet cable and work
with it. Once you see the icon of one iMac's hard drive on the desktop of
the other, you simply drag files over as you would between any two folders.
Off list, I am sending you a item "Transferring Data from OS 9 to OS X" that
I archived last month from a Tech Tails e-list from Small Dog Electronics.
That should get you going.
--
Al Poulin
------------------------------
Date: April 04, 2004
From: d.broberg
Subject: Two to add to wish list
1. I'd like a way (I'm thinking different fonts?) to indicate that data I
have entered is not definite. Example: In searching a probate file, I
found a person I believe to be the husband of one of the deceased's
daughters. So I want to enter him in Reunion, but I want to be clear that
I haven't proven the connection. I know I can add notes, etc., but I would
like a clear visual cue.
2. I would like to be able to go from a searched-out list to one of the
people on the list, and then return to the list without having to
re-search. I know you can find it by using Window>>Previous
Lists>>Found>>Recent Found List, but that's pretty clunky. Example: I've
started using Logs extensively for research, and I wanted to transfer info
that I prevously had included in Misc. Notes under the tag "Questions" and
"Research", etc. So I searched and found all the "Questions", and want to
be able to move quickly between entries and copy and paste the questions
into the appropriate logs.
I love Reunion and brag about it to all my PC-locked friends. Good job,
Leister!
Darla Broberg
------------------------------
Date: April 04, 2004
From: d.broberg
Subject: Scratch one from wish list!
I just discovered the Command - R keyboard shortcut for pulling up a
"Recent Found List". I think that's plenty quick enough for me, so I'll
scratch the second wish list item in the e-mail I sent a few minutes ago.
Darla Broberg
------------------------------
Date: April 05, 2004
From: Doug Chadduck
Subject: how to chart question
Version 7 (8 on order) on old! mac.
Re: Descendant Chart - Is there any way to get a descendant chart showing
descendants of two couples. Couple One's son married Couple Two's daughter
in Norway. Newly married couple then sailed to America and have many
descendants. Only workaround I've found is to create ficticious parents for
Couple One and Two making their son and daughter first cousins, then doing a
descendant chart from on of these ficticious couples, and manually erasing
the ficticious couple from the end result. Am I missing an easier way? Will
this be do-able in Version 8? I just have this picture of two old couples
standing on a dock, in Norway, as the ship bearing the newlywed couple
leaves for America. I doubt these couples ever saw their kids again let
alone any of their American descendants who came after.
Granted, an unusual circumstance, but the time and resources to explore
more ancestors in Norway may be a long ways off and I'd love to be able to
make up just one chart.
------------------------------
Date: April 05, 2004
From: Steve W. Jackson
Subject: Re: Web Card Problem
Melinda Elmore <mkelmore@xxx_com> wrote:
>> If you're distributing a CD to family members, I suggest considering a
>> separate file, perhaps named something like "open_me_first.html" or
>> something you think will be obvious to them. Regardless of platform
>> (Mac or PC, that is), opening that file by double-click will open it
>> with their preferred web browser. You could design it as a
>> description/introduction page if you like, with a link to the actual
>> "TOC" page, or simply as a redirection to the other one with no delay,
>> thus making it seem transparent.
>
>Steve--
>I think you just suggested a solution to a problem I have been trying
>to think through. However, I am slow on the uptake. Could you explain
>how to put a document on the CD that will "open the document with their
>preferred web browser." Thanks so much in advance for your generous
>willingness to help all of us.
>
>P.S. I am trying to produce CDs of old family photographs to
>distribute to family members, with supporting documentation, in a
>format that will be user-friendly, cross-platform, etc. I know they
>all have browsers.
>Melinda
Melinda,
Windows systems associate a file extension with an application. So
all those you know with Windows will automatically have a file with
.htm or .html opened by their default web browser if they
double-click it. Sadly for them, there's no way to have files with
the same extension open with different programs.
On a Mac, it can be slightly more troublesome now that we've got two
ways of doing things (OS 9 and earlier relied entirely on type and
creator code, whereas OS X can use that and extensions too). If you
expect the CD to be used by people with OS 9 and earlier systems,
it's probably best to assign type and creator codes to the file.
There are a variety of tools around to help you do that. You'll want
to assign a file type of "TEXT", but the specific creator code is the
potential catch. Netscape uses a creator code of "MOSS". Internet
Explorer uses "MSIE". I no longer use OS 9 and can't recall with
absolute certainty, but I believe that choosing one of these would
generally work pretty well for everybody, especially since later
systems had Internet Config available to help them.
In OS X, these files will respect the assigned creator code if you've
got a browser that's configured to handle it. If not, it'll use your
preferred browser setting (which will be Safari for new systems
without anything else available).
If you've got a good program for creating CDs, you may also want to
consider something even friendlier, which is the creation of a hybrid
CD. Essentially, this will let you create a CD that looks one way to
Mac users and another way to Windows users. You can set it up in
such a way that the files common to both platforms aren't duplicated.
The main advantage of this is that Windows systems can be set to
automatically open something when they first insert the CD by way of
a special "autorun" file created for that purpose. I've forgotten
some details, but you can have it run an executable you provide or
you can have it open a URL (which can be on the CD). The Mac side
pretty much guarantees that nothing will run on open, but you can set
it up to open a window on insert and then display a folder with some
obvious instructions (like a folder whose name forms an arrow
pointing to something else and saying "double-click me to start") or
any of a number of other possibilities.
This is probably glossing it over somewhat. But it will hopefully
offer a start. If you'd like, feel free to contact me off-list and
we can try and work out some more details on your options, as I have
a Windows system accessible (I have to use it for work,
unfortunately) and can get some details on autorun.
= Steve =
--
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
------------------------------
Date: April 05, 2004
From: Bellthorpe
Subject: Re: Web Card Problem
Melinda wrote:
> I am trying to produce CDs of old family photographs to distribute to
> family members, with supporting documentation, in a format that will be
> user-friendly, cross-platform, etc. I know they all have browsers.
Melinda: I don't know if this will help you, but I too struggled with the
problem of how to share photos with my Mac-using relatives as well as those
"other relatives" who still persist in using PCs. I finally settled on this
strategy, which has produced some very positive feedback from all
concerned, and it avoids having to use browsers.
For those relatives who wish to print the photos out or alter them, I
placed 2 identical sets of pictures on the CD in uncompressed high-rez TIFF
files (JPEG is just too lossy for descent prints): One set of photos in IBM
PC TIFF format and one set in Macintosh TIFF format. And I included a third
set of photos in 72 dpi JPEG format for those relatives who wished to
download them into their preferred slide program and view them on their
computer's screen.
Plus, I also included a photo album (complete with photos, documentation
and captions) on the CD that I prepared in AppleWorks and saved as a PDF
file, which can be freely used by both PC and Mac users for viewing or for
printing. (I used PrintToPDF to make the PDF file as I still use OS 9.2.)
The PDF photo album was a huge hit, and everyone enjoyed being able to make
high-quality prints of their favourite photos from the TIFF images. And the
CDs were easy and cheap to mail. Just an idea.
Regards,
Don Bell
------------------------------
Date: April 05, 2004
From: Rod Hagen
Subject: Re: Mac to Mac
"stephen sherlock" <stephenhj@xxxxxxx_com> wrote:
> I've got an iMac Indigo running 9.1 and am using Reunion 8.05. A few
> days ago I bought a new iMac G4 20" running "Panther". How do I transfer
> all my information from my Indigo to my G4 ?
There were a couple of different computers called the "Indigo" imac,
stephen. If you have firewire ports on yours, then the easiest thing
to do is to simply hook up the two computers using a firewire cable
and the restart one of them while holding down the "t" key. It will
then start up in "target disk" mode, and appear as an additional HD
on the screen of the other Mac. You can then simply "drag and drop"
your files across.
Even easier than ethernet!
Cheers
Rod
--
Rod Hagen
email: rodhagen@xxxxxxxx_net.au
Hurstbridge, Victoria, Australia
WWW http://www.netspace.net.au/~rodhagen
------------------------------
Date: April 05, 2004
From: AEPalmer
Subject: Re: Uncertain Data
Darla Broberg <d.broberg@xxxxxxx_net> wrote:
> I'd like a way (I'm thinking different fonts?) to indicate that data I
> have entered is not definite. Example: In searching a probate file, I
> found a person I believe to be the husband of one of the deceased's
> daughters. So I want to enter him in Reunion, but I want to be clear
> that I haven't proven the connection. I know I can add notes, etc., but
> I would like a clear visual cue.
For children there is a good solution to this problem - see below, but to
my kinowledge, there is no easy way of tagging a spousal relationship as
being "not proven." Perhaps the best (albiet klunky) way is to put "NOT
PROVEN" in the memo field of the marriage data entry. The alternative
method would be to make the font change in the report via the word
processor. (A pain, but it works).
In version 7 one can use one of the "Child Status" entries to provide the
additional status information. In version 8, it is possible to create
additional entries to the status list. In my case I have made an entry that
says: "||| NOT PROVEN |||". Once this child status is made, it is a simple
matter of selecting the "Not Proven" tag as easily as marking the child
"Twin". This serves to identify those parent-child relationships to all who
read your information. Including yourself!
Regards
--
AE Palmer <aepalmer@xxxxxx_com>
------------------------------
Date: April 05, 2004
From: Agnes
Subject: Re: Uncertain Data
Darla Broberg <d.broberg@xxxxxxx_net> wrote:
> I'd like a way (I'm thinking different fonts?) to indicate that data I
> have entered is not definite. Example: In searching a probate file, I
> found a person I believe to be the husband of one of the deceased's
> daughters. So I want to enter him in Reunion, but I want to be clear
> that I haven't proven the connection. I know I can add notes, etc., but
> I would like a clear visual cue.
May I suggest that in order to make any data stand out you use color?
I often put info in red so that I will know it has certain properties I
wish to define. Using a flag to keep these items separate can also make
it possible for me to go back and correct/alter this later.
Agnes EC
------------------------------
Date: April 06, 2004
From: Timothy Lundin
Subject: Re: how to chart question
On Monday, April 5, 2004, Doug Chadduck wrote:
> Re: Descendant Chart - Is there any way to get a descendant chart
> showing descendants of two couples. ... Only workaround I've found is to
> create ficticious parents for Couple One and Two making their son and
> daughter first cousins, then doing a descendant chart from on of these
> ficticious couples, and manually erasing the ficticious couple from the
> end result. Am I missing an easier way?
I don't know if there's an easier way, but this might be a little
cleaner:
- Navigate to the family card of one of the children of the newly
married couple who sailed away
- Select Find-->Mark Groups
- Select the Mark tab, click the Ancestors of... radio button, ensure
sufficient generations are chosen, check the Unmark Everybody First
box, check the Mark Spouses box, and check the Mark Current Couple box
- Click the Mark button
- Navigate to his/her parents
- Select Find-->Mark Groups
- Select the Mark tab, click the Descendants of ... radio button,
ensure sufficient generations are chosen, UNcheck the Unmark Everybody
box, and check the Mark Spouses box
- Click the Mark button
- Navigate to the family card of the child used in the first step
- Select Create-->Relative Chart
- Choose the appropriate options in the Setup window, ensuring that the
Prune: Marked Relatives Only box is checked
- Click the Chart button
This may have a few unnecessary steps, depending on the state of your
database, but the result will be essentially an hourglass chart
centered on the newly married couple.
Tim
http://www.familygraphics.com
------------------------------
Date: April 06, 2004
From: Steven Willott
Subject: Re: Web Card Problem
Melinda wrote:
> I am trying to produce CDs of old family photographs to distribute to
> family members, with supporting documentation, in a format that will be
> user-friendly, cross-platform, etc. I know they all have browsers.
I am doing the same and would appreciate any suggestions anyone may have.
Steven Willott
Math Teacher
Francis Howell North High School
2549 Hackmann Road
St. Charles, MO 63303
school phone: (636) 851-4900
voice mail: (636) 851-5095
web page: http://fhn.fhsd.k12.mo.us/swillott
------------------------------
Date: April 06, 2004
From: John Hill
Subject: Re: Gedcom Standard
>> I have written a very basic Classic application that
>> will convert the GEDCOM so that most of the errors are cleared, either
>> be deleting the sources or converting them into a form acceptable to
>> PAF.
>>
>> If anyone wants to try it, let me know and I'll email you a copy. It's
>> only 32K (and that's uncompressed). No warranties! it is, in effect
>> experimental software.
>>
>> One caution - it doesn't like single @ symbols (e.g in e-mail
>> addresses).
>> According to the GEDCOM standard, these should be converted to @@, but
>> Reunion 7 doesn't do this and AFAIK Reunion 8 has yet not been
>> modified
>> to do so. And you can't just convert @ to @@ in the GEDCOM text file,
>> because there are NUMEROUS places where a single @ is correct :-(
Snip...
> My latest gripe concerns the way Reunion and RootsMagic implement the
> address fields. They make different assumptions about how addresses
> should work, and as a result it is impossible to exchange GEDCOM files
> with one of my cousins. Does your program massage the address fields?
Are you referring to e-mail addresses, or to the address structure:
ADDRESS_STRUCTURE: =
n ADDR < ADDRESS_LINE > {0:1}
+1 CONT < ADDRESS_LINE > {0:M}
snip...
+1 CTRY < ADDRESS_COUNTRY > {0:1}
n PHON < PHONE_NUMBER > {0:3}
If so, no; I don't touch it. But if you still have an unsolved problem,
and can tell me what you need done (such as an example of Reunion's
output and the format your cousins require) I may be able to provide a
transformer - as long as you have the Classic environment or earlier.
Maybe you'd like to contact me direct? It could get technical!
However, I have now trained my application to handle Reunion's output
of single @s (and convert them to @@s in the process).
John (Bournemouth)
------------------------------
Date: April 06, 2004
From: Venita Roylance
Subject: Re: Gedcom Standard
> I'm beginning to think that calling GEDCOM a 'standard' is a misnomer.
> No two programs, including Reunion, interpret the standard in the same
> way.
I work mostly with Reunion and PAF, but I've found that if the PAF
users choose "Gedcom 5.5" to make their gedcoms, they are a little more
generic and open more completely in Reunion. I don't know if the other
programs offer the same option (Gedcom 5.5) or not in the export
choices. PAF still seems to choke on formats that aren't theirs, even
when the info has the same tag in both programs!! I find some very
interesting items in 'notes' when I have to import into a PAF file.
The most frustrating thing for me is that each program has it's own
version of how a source should be recorded. It would be lovely if the
programmers could come to some sort of agreement about a generic
simple, flexible, useful format. Personally, I'd choose Reunion over
all the others that I know anything about. It's very easy to create a
source then very easy to link it to facts. BRAVO REUNION!! Simplicity
and flexibility. I'm all for that!
Venita
Homepage: Family History and Other Fascinations
http://homepage.mac.com/venitar/home.html
------------------------------
Date: April 06, 2004
From: Venita Roylance
Subject: Wish list - "not a match"
Hi,
In the next upgrade, would it be possible to add a "not a match" option
to the match/merge screen? The goal would be to mark those "matches"
that keep coming up but aren't really matches - mark them so the
program knows they aren't matches and stops offering them for
consideration. Does that make sense?
Many thanks,
Venita
Homepage: Family History and Other Fascinations
http://homepage.mac.com/venitar/home.html
------------------------------
Date: April 06, 2004
From: CharneeS
Subject: Re: Norway research
Doug wrote:
> the time and resources to explore
> more ancestors in Norway may be a long ways off
Doug, the Norwegians kept fantastic records and most of them are accessible
on the Internet. Go to:
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&tekst=meldingar&spraak=e
I have had marvelous success with these databases, and if you want any
help, I can try to help out. I won't go into detail here because it's not
a Reunion subject, but anyone with Norwegian ancestors should know about
this.
Charnee Smit (descendant of a Swede and a Norwegian).
------------------------------
Date: April 06, 2004
From: Bruce Stewart
Subject: Re: Web Card Problem
Steven Willott wrote:
> > P.S. I am trying to produce CDs of old family photographs to
> > distribute to family members, with supporting documentation, in a
> > format that will be user-friendly, cross-platform, etc. I know
> > they all have browsers.
> > Melinda
>
> I am doing the same and would appreciate any suggestions anyone may
> have.
>
> Steven Willott
> Math Teacher
Do I have the solution for you guys. Hey, Steve Jackson, someone
finally hit on my specialty. The software is Portfolio by Extensis.
Version 6 is just recently out.
First you must add (import) all your photos into a catalog and attach
information to each photo. The information is in 2 basic forms. 1. a
Keyword List and 2. a Description. The description is a a free form
note. Any information you wish to place there in reference to that
photo.
The Keyword List is the search engine for your catalog. This can
contain any bit of information relating to the photo to find it or a
group amongst many others. (My son in law, the photographer has 56,000
in his catalog)
Now comes the good part. Portfolio has a "Collect" function that will
take selected photos and move them to a designated folder. With the
photos comes the catalog folder that Portfolio uses to organize them
AND a Portfolio Browser (not the complete program) that can be used to
view the photos using the Keywords and Descriptions. The Browser comes
in three flavors. 1. IBM PC 2. Mac OS 9.2 and 3. Mac OS X compatible.
This information in the "Collected" folder is now ready to write to a
hybrid CD disk.
It is a little bit more complicated than the above. The software is
about $100, see their website: <www.extensis.com> I have no connection
whatsoever to Extensis.
I have used this program for nearly 7 years both on IBM & Mac. I prefer
to use .jpg format since it is universal and .tiff is hard to use as
well as unnecessary unless you want to produce photos 24X36. The jpg
format if properly used is entirely capable of handling 8x10 photos
with 300 dpi for making exquisite prints.
Contact me directly if you wish more information.
Bruce Stewart
thebruce@xxxxxxxxxx_com
------------------------------
Date: April 06, 2004
From: Judy Holter
Subject: Re: Norway Research
Doug wrote:
> > the time and resources to explore
> > more ancestors in Norway may be a long ways off
>
> Go to:
>
> http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?slag=vis&tekst=meldingar&spraak=e
>
> I have had marvelous success with these databases, and if you want any
> help, I can try to help out.
You might also want to consider subscribing to the Norway mailing list at:
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html
The people on the list are extremely knowledgeable and helpful and are
from all over the world.
Judy
------------------------------
Date: April 07, 2004
From: Mike Horst
Subject: Re: changing a file name
Nina Bunin <sasha.roxie@xxxxxxx_net> wrote:
> How do I change the name of a family file? ... Running OS 10.2.5
Quit Reunion 8 so you know the family file isn't open. Then navigate
to the file's location on your hard drive and adjust the name of the
file as you would any other file or folder on your computer.
Mike Horst
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: April 07, 2004
From: Troy Sagrillo
Subject: Re: Web Card Problem
Bellthorpe@xxx_com wrote:
> For those relatives who wish to print the photos out or alter them, I
> placed 2 identical sets of pictures on the CD in uncompressed high-rez
> TIFF files (JPEG is just too lossy for descent prints): One set of
> photos in IBM PC TIFF format and one set in Macintosh TIFF format.
There is no reason to include *both* a PC and Mac version of TIF files.
Either system can open and use those of the other without problem. Since
TIF files can be several hundred megabytes (depending on your scanning
resolution), you will save a lot of storage space that could be used for
other photos if you have use one version. I generally save as a Win version
even though I am using a Mac. The Mac has no problem opening them in
Photoshop, Preview, MS Word, MS PowerPoint, or any other graphic-capable
program.
However, it might be wise to not "zip compress" those TIFs *within* the TIF
itself (i.e., I am talking about an external zip file). Those with Photoshop
(Win or Mac) will have no problem opening them, but others may. I am not
100% sure of this.
Best,
Troy
------------------------------
Date: April 07, 2004
From: Tim Davis
Subject: Re: Norway research
> Doug wrote:
>
>> the time and resources to explore
>> more ancestors in Norway may be a long ways off
Charnee wrote:
> Doug, the Norwegians kept fantastic records and most of them are
> accessible
> on the Internet. Go to:
>
> http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebFront.exe?
> slag=vis&tekst=meldingar&spraak=e
>
> I have had marvelous success with these databases, and if you want any
> help, I can try to help out. I won't go into detail here because
> it's not
> a Reunion subject, but anyone with Norwegian ancestors should know
> about
> this.
I second Charnee's statement. Researching my Norwegian ancestors was
not only the most fruitful but fun. There are loads of great databases
online with Norwegian vital and civil records including: the Digital
Archive (hosted by the Norwegian government, mentioned above), the LDS
Vital Records index, Norwegian Ship Lists (www.norwayheritage.com),
mid-west US vital record databases, and many more resources. Learning a
bit of Norwegian culture, the naming system, some of the language is
very helpful, and you can find many good webpages that can help here.
If you have any questions about getting started or deep searching
techniques, feel free to write me off list.
Tim Davis
------------------------------
Date: April 07, 2004
From: Muriel Areno
Subject: Relatives list
I just made a list of the relatives of one of my ancestors, so that I
could then mark them all and make a gedcom for a potential cousin.
I went to List>Relatives, checked the man's name, and checked *all* the
possible relationships, including Parents and Aunts and Uncles. But
only his descendants were listed, starting with his sons, when he does
have parents in my family file.
No big, I'll just mark his parents manually, but is this a bug? I am
running Reunion 8.05 and OS X on a middle-aged G4.
Muriel
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Date: April 07, 2004
From: Norm Harris
Subject: Fields when Merge Family Files
What happens to the Fields I have Defined if I Merge two family files?
In other words if one or both family files have had their Fields
changed from the original settings but the two files are not
identical in terms of these changed fields.
This question may be another reason to keep all info in one family file. ;)
Thanks,
Norm
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Date: April 07, 2004
From: Muriel Areno
Subject: Re: Photo formats (was: Web Card problem)
> it might be wise to not "zip compress" those TIFs *within* the TIF
> itself (i.e., I am talking about an external zip file).
Photo formats don't compress well anyway, so it is pointless to try:
you won't gain anything.
Jpegs are already compressed. Speaking of which, you can use jpegs for
their small size and flexibility. They won't lose any quality if you
only open and close them and don't modify or resave them. If you plan
on adjusting the color, getting rid of red eye or whatever, make an RGB
tiff of your original, mess with it to your heart's content, and resave
as a jpeg to send to people and make CDs with.
I always keep separate folders with my original scans and another with
the original jpegs from my digital camera. I always work on copies.
That way, if something happens, you can always go back to your
original. When they take up too much room, I make CDs of them.
Muriel
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Date: April 07, 2004
From: Bev Anderson
Subject: Norwegian Research
Norwegian Research:
I've copied and pasted entries from the Digitalarkivet records straight
into the Notes sections of my Reunion genealogy program from census data and
immigration records so family members can see exactly what I've found when
it's posted on the web (earlier links I marked became invalid after a
while, so I had to redo some searches). With a little more than two years
of practice searching their database, I've discovered on occasion the
Digitalarkivet web site is down when they update it; I just go back to it a
few hours later and it's up again - if you get an error page, just wait a
few hours and the site is back up. I cross-referenced the census data with
known ancestors on the LDS web site for Norwegian Vital Records (ditto
Danish records - although you can't scroll through Danish records like you
can the Norwegian records when spellings are in question). I've found data
not only on my family, but offshoots of other family members who have
married Scandinavian immigrants. I concur with the others; while this
might not be a Reunion subject per se, those who need information from
Norwegian records and haven't seen the wealth of data in Norwegian records
- in particular - including where they lived in Norway, the date of
embarkation, age, whether married or unmarried, what name they used -
sometimes patronymic names, other times location names - the names of the
ships your ancestors sailed on, as well as their destination in the US -
it's a pure treasure trove!!! While the LDS site does not have the three
extra letters of the Scandinavian alphabets for hits on their site, you do
need your keyboards programmed for those three alphabets to successfully
search the Norwegian or Danish databases for some names and words that
contain those three extra vowels - if you know the correct spelling to
begin with, that is, or variations of the spelling. The Norwegians have
undergone three major language shifts, so one must be aware of the spelling
variations for pre- and post-1917 Norwegian, and which letters of the
alphabet are interchangeable. When in doubt, just scroll through the
records for the location in which you know you will find records (or the
year, in the case of the immigration data), and you'll see what I mean.
Like American records, it's full of alternate spellings of all kinds,
probably more so, since they had a major language change in the early 20th
century, and records you will be searching in are mostly from pre-1900 data.
Norwegian sites particularly good to search:
Fantastic map of Norway. Enlarge by clicking on the county you are
searching in.... you eventually get to the names of the little farmsteads!
:-) You can also print or save the maps you need to add to your genealogy
information. There's an additional feature in that you can move the map
around when you click on the dot by the little hand symbol.
http://www.finn.no/finn/searchmap;jsessionid;jsessionid=468661023600015193
List of Norwegian immigrant ships - as Tim pointed out. After finding out
about the name of the ship my ancestors sailed on in the Digitalarkivet
records, I found the history and photo of the ship on this web site! :-)
http://www.norwayheritage.com/ships/index.asp
http://www.norwayheritage.com/ships/scan-tas.htm
(A history of the immigrant ship my ancestors came on in 1882 & 1883, to
give you an idea of some of the info that can be found on this web site
besides some background history that is wonderful!)
Naturalization records in the US; don't forget about ports of embarkation
in (most often) Quebec, Canada, for the late-19th century for Scandinavian
immigrants, the open borders between the US & Canada, etc., on the second
link for the same web site. Ellis Island wasn't even open when most of the
Scandinavian immigrants got here in the late 19th century. There's a wealth
of good background information, and, more importantly, what you won't find
on American records for that time period (i.e. very little!):
http://www.archives.gov/research_room/genealogy/research_topics/naturalization_records.html
http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/fall_2000_us_canada_immigration_records_1.html
Scandinavian Roots/American Lives - Good web site for background
information, plus it has hyperlinks to the Digitalarkivet web site in
Norway, the equivalent web sites for Danish and Swedish records, etc. They
also have links to web sites in Iceland and Finland.
http://www.migrationinstitute.fi/nordic/
Web site for St. Olaf's college bookstore, through which you can order an
excellent translating dictionary (ordbok) for post-1917 Norwegian.
Norwegian-English Dictionary, Einar Haugen, University of Wisconsin Press,
Madison, 1967, 1974. This was the translating dictionary my Norwegian
teacher recommended in the early 1980s when I studied the language for two
years, and someone who recently graduated from St. Olaf's with a major in
Norwegian said they used this dictionary. I have it in my genealogy
library. (Think I paid a total of $37.50 after shipping and handling were
included, but you can order the book through the college library if your
favorite bookstore can't get it. My dictionary arrived with blank pages, I
had to send it back and they even refunded the shipping costs, which
surprised me and I hadn't asked for.... I just wanted the dictionary! They
could have kept the shipping and handling fee, as far as I was concerned.)
There are also translating dictionaries online for all three Scandinavian
countries for genealogy terms, some are on links off of the web sites
others and I have mentioned.
http://www.collegebookstore.org/
http://www.stolaf.edu/depts/norwegian/
If you know your ancestors obtained homestead land, you could likely find
the Land Patent - AND the downloadable .gif or .tif or .pdf image(s) of the
Land Patent on this web site. I wrote to the webmaster of this site about
using the images on my Reunion genealogy program auto-created web site. He
said the Land Patent web site is pretty well dependent on the number of hits
for their funding, and told me how to include a direct hyperlink to the
image of Land Grants for the various people for my web site (cards) in the
Notes section (the stuff behind the Accession number is not necessary for
getting the image to appear on screen - and I have links to Land Patents
for my gr-gr-grandmother and at least four of her sons who also got Land
Patents in the same county, as well as two lines of my three Scandinavian
ancestors). I use just a surname search in an individual state (alternate
spellings need to be run on separate searches), then when the index comes
up I select the known name in the county where I know someone homesteaded,
and then get to the image and have the images downloaded in my database
(the Land Grant web site is updated every couple of years and the links
might not always be current after the updates):
http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/Default.asp?
Tip on searching the LDS Vital Records web site for any names of
additional offspring of a couple if you know your ancestor had siblings....
Leave the first space blank, then put in the patronymic name of the father,
the first name of the mother, put in the year of birth for your ancestor,
then do a plus or minus of 20 years, then the usual info for the country
and county, and the names of the children (only those who were baptized, so
not all siblings will be listed sometimes), will come up on the search. I
found siblings of some of my ancestors that way (the 4th cousin & genealogy
researcher who sent me data for my ancestors going back to 1620 had not
included some of that information, altho the Digitalarkivet links directly
to pages for the immigrationprotocol records was sent to me three years ago
- "protocol" in Norwegian means "record" and the Scandinavians run two or
three words together and often don't capitalize words that we normally
do). Then if you didn't already have the marriage data for the parents,
clear the site, put in the patronymic name in the first blanks as usual
(they didn't use location names as surnames in their records) of the father
and/or mother, put in the year of baptism/birth of the oldest offspring with
a plus or minus of two or five years, and sometimes the marriage record
comes up. After I found data on my Danish ancestors in their immigration
and census records, I did the same thing for the Danish info on the LDS
site and later a contact in Denmark found further church baptism data from
the 1870s/80s that was not on the LDS Vital Records database. Seems to be
a cutoff around 1850-1860 for Scandinavian records on the LDS web site,
since I don't have much luck finding any data that "should" be there after
about 1850-60.
Of the three Scandinavian countries to search for genealogy records,
Norway is the BEST with the most information online (they indicate where
records aren't complete yet in a few counties), Denmark is pretty good (not
all records online there, but a lot are) - with the caveat that you can't
scroll through Danish records if you're unsure of a spelling for a location
so patience is needed to search that site, and Sweden has lots to do to
catch up (at least the county where my Swedish grandfather came from is not
online yet)!
Since this is not a topic for Reunion (except as it relates to adding
links in one's Notes sections for web sites), I can be contacted off this
newsletter for other "trivia" regarding searching web sites in those
countries - with many years of genealogy research, we all become amateur
sleuths, etymologists, historians, linguists.... I won't do the search for
anyone (too much fun to find these things out on one's own!), but will give
advice if asked. Where my Scandinavian immigrants ended up has a huge
population of descendants of immigrants, so what I don't know about I might
be able to find out about through others. I've been given tons of
information and research tips over the years, so I am always willing to try
to help other serious genealogy researchers! :-)
Bev Anderson
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Date: April 08, 2004
From: AEPalmer
Subject: Re: Fields when Merge Family Files
Norm Harris at <nwhiii@xxxxxxxxx_net> wrote:
> What happens to the Fields I have Defined if I Merge two family files?
>
> In other words if one or both family files have had their Fields
> changed from the original settings but the two files are not
> identical in terms of these changed fields.
>
> This question may be another reason to keep all info in one family
> file. ;)
To my best recollection (I haven't tried this in awhile), all defined
(system or user) fields that have been used in one or more persons ot
families are carried over during the import.
WARNING! Danger! Danger! NEVER, EVER, DO A MERGE ON A GOOD COPY OF YOUR
DATA! ALWAYS USE A COPY.
When merging & matching, the user defined fields are attached to the
resulting card. If you haven't used the Match & Merge function before,
be aware that if you have birth, death, marriage, etc info in each entry
before a merge, the result WILL have multiple copies of the same (?)
info. In a few cases I have merged three versions of the same person and
wound up with three births and three deaths in the consolidated record!
Regards
--
AE Palmer <aepalmer@xxxxxx_com>
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Date: April 09, 2004
From: increase
Subject: Install OS10
I have an iMAC bought Jan. 2000. It has OS 9.2.2 installed with 128 MGB
RAM. Included is FireWire port and cable, USB and Ethernet input plugs.
Once before I loaded OS 10 and could not access my incoming/outgoing
E-Mail msgs. Can anyone give me the sequence to use in installing OS 10
cleanly? I use Netscape for Mail and on the Internet. Explorer is
also loaded. My service provider is WIDOMAKER of Williamsburg, VA.
Thanks, Richard I. Mather increase@xxxxxxxxx_com
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Date: April 10, 2004
From: martha
Subject: match and merge
AE Palmer's point about using a backup copy to do a merge of files is
well taken. I stopped using the match and merge function of Reunion
just because it caused more problems than it was worth. I don't know
why the program cannot eliminate redundant information if the cells
contain the exact same information when the merge is made. Surely if
the program can bring up matches, it can also match up like
information and not include one of them in the merge?
This ability would definitely be on my wishlist for the next upgrade.
Martha
Martha Levinson Lev-Zion, Ph.D.
The 24th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
July 4-9, 2004
www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004
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Date: April 10, 2004
From: Joe & Vicki Swann
Subject: Re: Install Mac OS X
Richard,
As long as a copy of Mac OS 9.1 or better is on your machine you should
be able to bring up Classic mode from within OS X and run all your old
apps. So your old copy of Netscape should work fine.
Over the years I have migrated from Netscape to Outlook Express to
Apple's Mail for my email. I've never had a problem whenever I switched
but I was careful to enter all the account information correctly
(incoming server, outgoing server, user name, password, etc.). I'd
suggest you open Netscape, poke around in the mail preferences, write
down all the information you find there, and then enter that in Mail
when you set it up.
Joe
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Date: April 11, 2004
From: Tom Lundeen
Subject: Re: Install Mac OS X
Richard I. Mather at <increase@xxxxxxxxx_com> wrote:
> I have an iMAC bought Jan. 2000. It has OS 9.2.2 installed with 128 MGB
> RAM. Included is FireWire port and cable, USB and Ethernet input plugs.
> Once before I loaded OS 10 and could not access my incoming/outgoing
> E-Mail msgs. Can anyone give me the sequence to use in installing OS 10
> cleanly? I use Netscape for Mail and on the Internet. Explorer is also
> loaded. My service provider is WIDOMAKER of Williamsburg, VA.
Richard:
Your problem is likely the amount of RAM installed in your iMac. 128mb is
not sufficient to use OSX (it's a memory hog, compared to OS 9.x).
An iMac only has two memory slots, so you're likely to currently have one
memory card in one slot with 128mb, while the other slot is empty. If you
buy a small memory card now and then later decide to upgrade again, you will
need to throw away one of your memory cards, so it's best to buy something
bigger than you will likely need. The iMac will accept up to 1gb (1000mb),
with 512mb in each slot. I'd recommend that you buy 512mb of memory and put
it in the one empty slot you have.
You could purchase either 128mb or 256mb for that slot, but I would expect
that you might grow out of that very quickly in OSX. You'll find the extra
memory very usable, as most OSX programs are requiring more and more memory.
As always, my opinion, and worth every penny you paid for it! 8-)
Tom Lundeen
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Date: April 12, 2004
From: Donna S. Knecht
Subject: Pedigree chart boxes overlayed
I created a pedigree chart with Reunion 8 and was surprised to see all
the boxes piled up in one spot. I put in custom paper size 36"x72" and
that didn't change the look. I have created quite a few charts in the
past with the Super Chart feature and didn't have this problem.
Tree->Space didn't seem to help. It would be a lot of work to move each
individual box. What I am doing wrong? I want the typical left-to-right
pedigree chart.
Donna
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Date: April 12, 2004
From: Mike Horst
Subject: Re: Relatives list
Muriel Areno <toucanne@xxxxxx_com> wrote:
> I just made a list of the relatives of one of my ancestors, so that I
> could then mark them all and make a gedcom for a potential cousin. I
> went to List>Relatives, checked the man's name, and checked *all* the
> possible relationships, including Parents and Aunts and Uncles. But only
> his descendants were listed, starting with his sons, when he does have
> parents in my family file.
The relatives shown when you list relatives in this way are based on
the relatives identified when you choose Find -> Relatives, and click
the Identify button. (Note that Find -> Relatives and List ->
Relatives open the same window, but show you different tabs within
it.)
So, I'd suggest that you go to the family card for this ancestor,
choose Find -> Relatives, select the ancestor in question from the
names available, and click Identify. This will identify all your
ancestor's relatives.
You can then list and mark them.
Alternatively, at this point you could close this window and choose
Find -> Mark Groups, and use the "People Related to..." option there
to mark all the relatives you just identified in the previous step.
Mike Horst
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Date: April 12, 2004
From: dave w
Subject: Re: Install Mac OS X
Tom Lundeen <tom@xxxxxxx_org> wrote:
> Richard I. Mather at <increase@xxxxxxxxx_com> wrote:
>
> > I have an iMAC bought Jan. 2000. It has OS 9.2.2 installed with
> >128 MB RAM.
<snip>
> > Once before I loaded OS 10 and could not access my incoming/outgoing
> > E-Mail msgs. Can anyone give me the sequence to use in installing OS
> > 10 cleanly? I use Netscape for Mail and on the Internet. Explorer
> > is also loaded.
>
> Richard:
>
> Your problem is likely the amount of RAM installed in your iMac. 128mb
> is not sufficient to use OSX (it's a memory hog, compared to OS 9.x).
>
> An iMac only has two memory slots, so you're likely to currently have
> one memory card in one slot with 128mb, while the other slot is empty.
> If you buy a small memory card now and then later decide to upgrade
> again, you will need to throw away one of your memory cards, so it's
> best to buy something bigger than you will likely need. The iMac will
> accept up to 1gb (1000mb), with 512mb in each slot. I'd recommend that
> you buy 512mb of memory and put it in the one empty slot you have.
>
> You could purchase either 128mb or 256mb for that slot, but I would
> expect that you might grow out of that very quickly in OSX. You'll find
> the extra memory very usable, as most OSX programs are requiring more
> and more memory.
>
> As always, my opinion, and worth every penny you paid for it! 8-)
>
> Tom Lundeen
Hi Richard,
Lets not be too pessimistic here as there are a number of things to
resolve.
I agree with Tom that 128MB RAM is insufficient to run OSX and a number
of apps successfully.
You havent stated what model of iMac you have, so check the documentation
that came with it and specs at apple.com/support to review RAM
allocation. At 4 years old it is likely two 64MB SIMMS as well, as there
was a disastrous fire in Taiwan a few years ago that caused loss of
production of memory chips and the cost skyrocketed to mid '90s levels.
Apple was hurt like everyone on this one.
A 512MB addition would be great. If one slot is free then shop around
and find the best price, and ask if they'll trade a SIMM as a rebate- you
can throw away good money if you dont ask! These SIMMS are quite
acceptable as sechond hand trades, as anyone worth their salt will test
them and give a limited warranty (3 months should be acceptable).
Once you have OSX running you will need to spend some quality time
seeking the best programmes (apps) options to use it. No point upgraing
the OS to simply carry on plugging away at OS9x. I was a late convert,
still using 10.1.5 on an iBook 366 with 320MB RAM (64 on board and 256
added).
This may well mean breaking with NS and finding an OSX dedicated email
programme. I believe Apples Mail has come a long way, tho I ony use it as
a backup (yes I have kept going with 1 classic app- Claris Emailer- as it
is text only and cant be bugged by virus etc that annoy Microsoft
products so much).
Trust this helps,
regards dave
www.macfocus.co.nz
Using ReUnion for Macintosh by LeistePro.com
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Date: April 13, 2004
From: William Taber
Subject: Re: match and merge
martha <martha@xxxxxxx_bgu.ac.il>
> AE Palmer's point about using a backup copy to do a merge of files is
> well taken. I stopped using the match and merge function of Reunion just
> because it caused more problems than it was worth. I don't know why the
> program cannot eliminate redundant information if the cells contain the
> exact same information when the merge is made. Surely if the program
> can bring up matches, it can also match up like information and not
> include one of them in the merge?
I think match and merge receives far more bad press than it deserves.
I use the feature all the time (well, perhaps a couple of times a
week) and think it's a godsend. But... I'm judicious about it. I
only use it for matching 2 entries that I have personally already
identified that I want to merge, and I mark them. Then only merge
those 2 at a time, go to that (now one) person and remove (or more
likely, reconcile) any duplicate information. Typically, the
duplicate information is not exactly duplicate, in my case, so a bit
of manual fiddling is useful... not an unnecessary step. One entry
might have the birth location as "Ohio", while the "duplicate" might
have the birth location as "Champaign County, Ohio".
It works well for me, at least.
William Taber, Indianapolis
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Date: April 13, 2004
From: F.J. van Bodegom
Subject: Re: match and merge
Martha,
I read your problem (# 2 on 12 april 20004) with match and merge.
I cannot reproduce your problem and everything works fine and correct.
When the fields are EXACTLY the same, than (after merging) there is NO
duplications of the fields.
However if there is small difference, then you get doubling of the
field and it is up to you to decide what is right.
It might be that, when you have a placename with a double word, example
Los Angelos and you put (by accident a double space between) then it is
not recognised as the same name.
Or that you placed (accidently) a space before the placename
Also with placing a comma between placename and country-name.
When you have a notefield and the information is slightly different,
then you get 2 notefields.
I tested this with Reunion 8 for OS 8/9 and also OS X.
So in my opinion the contents of the fields is different.
Frans van Bodegom
Dutch Reunion User Group
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Date: April 13, 2004
From: Robert Wilkman
Subject: Re: OSX and Memory
I have been helping at my son's school all Mac computer lab. Last year
we upgraded to OSX Jaguar on all 30 "slot loader" iMacs (350-500's) I
found that Jaguar work very well with 128 megs of ram, as an experiment
I installed Panther on both types of machines and it works but very
slow. I have Jaguar running on a older tray loader, also with 128 megs
of ram with good results. If you are looking for Ram, check out
Staples Office Supplies At least once a month they have 256/133 ram
chips for $29.95 after rebate and 128/133 for $19.95 . You can mix PC
100 and PC133 with no problems. Make sure all of your older programs
will work with OS 9.2.2, I found that some older programs no longer run
after we upgraded to OSX/9.2.2.
Bob Wilkman
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Date: April 13, 2004
From: Cassy Sommers
Subject: Source Search
Is there a way to search of people with certain Sources? For example I use
one Source that is Barbourville Mountain Advocate. Is there a way I can
find all individuals with just this source. I have tried the Find feature
but keep coming up with people who have this is the note field not just the
source field.
Thanks,
Cassy.
--
TOMBSTONE CENTRAL http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~foe3643/
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Date: April 13, 2004
From: niaroo
Subject: Re: Install Mac OS X
I gotta answer this before it goes to far done the road, I own a iMac
333 / 9.2.2 classic with 256 mbs it's loaded as far as it can go I
have Photoshop 7 and Illustrator 10 and Reunion 7 installed I ran
everything single even Reunion which was the lowest ram user was fine
until I made the mistake and moved two or three photos then it would
freeze as for receiving overseas mail with attachments well that was an
other story
The best thing I ever done was upgrade my iMac to a Dual 533 G 4
so for what it's worth save your money and buy a used or new G 4 you
will never regret it. Also the Apple mail works fine try it you may
just like it, the G 4 has Classic 9.2.2 installed and with an
cross-over cable you can carry your programs with you, but be
fore warned most companies have stopped making Classic programs every
one has moved to O S X
hope this is of some help Duncan Gibson
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Date: April 14, 2004
From: Timothy Lundin
Subject: Re: Pedigree chart boxes overlayed
On Monday, April 12, 2004, Donna S. Knecht wrote:
> I created a pedigree chart with Reunion 8 and was surprised to see all
> the boxes piled up in one spot. I put in custom paper size 36"x72" and
> that didn't change the look. <snip> What I am doing wrong? I want the
> typical left-to-right pedigree chart.
I have a vague recollection that the earlier versions of Reunion 8
might have exhibited this behavior on occasion. I think that simply
selecting Tree-->Orientation-->Left to Right might redraw the tree
properly. If you don't have the latest version of Reunion (8.05), you
might want to download the update.
Tim
http://www.familygraphics.com
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Date: April 14, 2004
From: Norm Harris
Subject: Record as Person or Family Information?
Before I get too far along in adding some new information, I'm
interested in what others have done regarding information that could
be recorded under a Person or as Family information?
Right now I'm adding information on where people lived. Not just the
city but specific addresses where available.
I could enter this under each person (I'm using a defined Note field)
which is probably the most accurate and less subject to error. This
is how I've started. During the time a person is married, the same
information would be recorded under each spouse on the Family Card.
Or I could record the residence information when married under the
family portion of the Family Card and when not married in the person
portion.
There are probably other types of information that could be recorded
as Person or Family information.
Is there a "best" or recommended approach when faced with that type
of information?
Thank you.
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Date: April 14, 2004
From: F.J. van Bodegom
Subject: Re: Match and Merge
Possible explanation for the strange behaviour of the Match/Merge
function in Martha familyfile.
In my answer from yesterday I wrote: When the fields are EXACTLY the
same, than (after merging) there is NO duplications of the fields. This
is still true.
Trying to imitate the results of Martha, I did some experiments:
When you have added a source (x) to a specific field (exemple birth) in
person A.
In another file you have person B with exact the same birthdate and
place, but because it is a different file (number of persons) also the
numbersequence of the sources is different, so source number y.
After importing and he Match function finds that person A and B could be
the same person (it you to decide if this is really true), but when you
merge person A and B, then Reunion found that, although the field
content is the same, the source connected to the birth is different, so
Reunion handles this as different fields and another birth field is added
(and that is CORRECT).
Explanation: the field content (birth date and birth place are
identical), but you found source x in a birth record and you found
source y in a drivers licence.
I hope that this explanation clarifies your finding in Match/Merge.
Frans van Bodegom
Dutch Reunion User Group
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Date: April 14, 2004
From: jim
Subject: Re: Match and Merge
Match and Merge works well for me, also. If I'm merging a number of
people I make sure that the merged result is 'marked'. That way I can
just click through the cards (using the checkmark-arrows at the foot of
the cards) to check their fields.
The problem I do have with it, which I have only seen mentioned a couple
of times without response from Leister, is that since the advent of
Reunion 8, EVERY time I open Match and Merge ALL the fields are
collapsed to the left and don't stay where I put them for the next time
I open it?? Anyone else experiencing that problem?
jim
--
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~langolier/
Graveyards & Gravestones
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~langolier/cemeteries.html
Berry Bibles Project
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~langolier/Berry_Bibles.html
Berry Family DNA Project
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~langolier/BerryDNA/dna_home.html
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Date: April 14, 2004
From: Stephen Tarry
Subject: Re: Install Mac OS X
Tom Lundeen <tom@xxxxxxx_org> wrote:
> Richard I. Mather at <increase@xxxxxxxxx_com> wrote:
>
> > I have an iMAC bought Jan. 2000. It has OS 9.2.2 installed with 128
> > MGB RAM. Included is FireWire port and cable, USB and Ethernet input
> > plugs.
> > Once before I loaded OS 10 and could not access my incoming/outgoing
> > E-Mail msgs. Can anyone give me the sequence to use in installing OS
> > 10 cleanly? I use Netscape for Mail and on the Internet. Explorer is
> > also loaded. My service provider is WIDOMAKER of Williamsburg, VA.
>
>
> Your problem is likely the amount of RAM installed in your iMac. 128mb
> is not sufficient to use OSX (it's a memory hog, compared to OS 9.x).
> [snip]
Joe Swann <j.v.swann@xxxxxxxx_att.net> wrote:
> Richard,
>
> As long as a copy of Mac OS 9.1 or better is on your machine you should
> be able to bring up Classic mode from within OS X and run all your old
> apps. So your old copy of Netscape should work fine.
>
> Over the years I have migrated from Netscape to Outlook Express to
> Apple's Mail for my email. I've never had a problem whenever I switched
> but I was careful to enter all the account information correctly
> (incoming server, outgoing server, user name, password, etc.). I'd
> suggest you open Netscape, poke around in the mail preferences, write
> down all the information you find there, and then enter that in Mail
> when you set it up.
Tom's point is well taken, that Mac OS X needs lots of RAM to run well.
I agree that one would be well advised to install quite a bit more than
than Apple's minimum requirement of 128 Mb.
However, I am skeptical that this explains Richard's problem.
Insufficient RAM will slow down OS X, perhaps drastically, but it should
not cause things (like Netscape Mail) to cease working. I think you will
have to look elsewhere than the amount of RAM to explain the problem.
Seems to me Joe's suggestion of carefully checking email settings
such as incoming and outgoing server is more likely to be the sort
of thing that will solve the problem.
..Steve Tarry
Auburn, N.H., USA
<o-maps@xxx_org>
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Date: April 14, 2004
From: ChoirMm
Subject: calendar
A cry for help! My Reunion 8.05 is running on an eMac G4. Every time I go
to open Reunion I get the calendar. It's locked into that position. I've
tried going to the Manual contents or asking the help screen but the Manual
has been no help.
Luckily, I backed it up but I would still like to open the program on my
hard disk. I will appreciate your suggestions. Thanks,
Mary Anne Drobnak
choirmm@xxx_com
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Date: April 15, 2004
From: Steve W. Jackson
Subject: Re: Source Search
Cassy Sommers <foe3643@xxx_com> wrote:
> Is there a way to search of people with certain Sources? For example I
> use one Source that is Barbourville Mountain Advocate. Is there a way I
> can find all individuals with just this source. I have tried the Find
> feature but keep coming up with people who have this is the note field
> not just the source field.
Cassy,
To find all uses of a specific source, go to the Source window (List
menu, then Sources, or just Command-S). At the bottom, the pulldown
named "Source Tools" includes a "Show Links to Source #" command, so
select a source and use that command to get a list of all uses of the
selected source. The resulting "found list" window will be named
"People Linked to Source #". It will now be available under the
Window menu on the Previous Lists item as "Source Links..."
That said, I believe what you were attempting was to use the Find
Anything command and to include use of a particular source item as
one of the search criteria. So far as I'm aware, there's no way to
do this at present. I would consider such a feature a nice addition
to a future release of Reunion (Leister's always listening in, too!).
= Steve =
--
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
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Date: April 15, 2004
From: Steve W. Jackson
Subject: Re: Match and Merge
Jim <jim@xxxxxxxxx_net>
> Match and Merge works well for me, also. If I'm merging a number of
> people I make sure that the merged result is 'marked'. That way I can
> just click through the cards (using the checkmark-arrows at the foot of
> the cards) to check their fields.
>
> The problem I do have with it, which I have only seen mentioned a couple
> of times without response from Leister, is that since the advent of
> Reunion 8, EVERY time I open Match and Merge ALL the fields are
> collapsed to the left and don't stay where I put them for the next time
> I open it?? Anyone else experiencing that problem?
Jim,
You're definitely not the only one seeing it. And hopefully it's not
just the two of us, either. :-)
As I recall, the exact same problem previously occurred in one of the
other windows that was similar in design, and Leister corrected that
in a previous maintenance update. I hope that this one won't be far
behind.
= Steve =
--
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
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Date: April 15, 2004
From: Genealicej
Subject: Preformatted web styles
For various reasons I am starting my website again from scratch.
I did the original website some years ago and it seemed a doddle then. Now
doing it again in Reunion 8, I seem to have somehow mislaid the
preformatted styles, as no menu pops up. I'm looking for the nifty blue
design with the white streak of lightening (was it Aqua?) through the page.
How can I find the preformats in background folder and re-import them?
I need an idiot's step by step guide and would be very grateful for any
help on this. I also note that when I create the webcards the little image
for the Contact details seem to be replaced by the dreaded white cross in a
red background. So all in all, help!!!! Any info would be greatly
appreciated.
Alice
UK
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Date: April 15, 2004
From: robert mcalear
Subject: Unicode
Are there any plans in the future to enable Unicode? One of the lines
I am working on is Croatian in origin. It would be nice to be able to
spell the surnames and locations with the proper diacritical marks.
Bob McAlear, in northern California
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Date: April 15, 2004
From: dshap
Subject: Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X -- info sources on installing
In today's ReunionTalk Digest are two messages on Mac OS. I'd like to pass
on a suggestion. A truly excellent author, David Pogue, has written several
very fine books on Mac OS 9 & Mac OS X. He's computer columnist for The New
York Times & a fine writer.
The books are in the "Missing Manual" Series published by O'Reilly &
Associates.
For more info on them, go to
http://www.missingmanuals.com
You'll also find very good downloadable shareware for both OS 9 & OS X at
the site. Unlike many computer books, he does not provide an accompanying
CD with them, but more than makes up for it by having a link at the above
site to "Missing CDs", where you can download software that's discussed &
recommended in the books. (The O'Reilly link gave me a faster download for
SnapzPro X 2 than the one at this utility's maker, ambrosia.com.)
I still use OS 9 (9.2.2) & also use Mac OS X 10.3. He discusses everything
I've ever needed to know about both, ranging from detailed info on their
installation to equally detailed info about using them. For example, he
talks about RAM needed, &, as I recall, says buy as much as your computer
can run since OS X is a hog. He discusses advantages & disadvantages of
having the two OS's installed on the same drive or partition.
Incidentally, the books are obtainable online from O'Reilly & other online
bookdealers, & are also stocked at "real" stores like Borders and others.
Don't forget other books in the series like the ones on Microsoft Office X,
on Office 2001, iPhoto 2, etc., for each of which there's a book.
David
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Date: April 15, 2004
From: Tom Lundeen
Subject: Re: Install Mac OS X
Stephen Tarry at o_maps@xxx_com wrote:
> Tom's point is well taken, that Mac OS X needs lots of RAM to run well.
> I agree that one would be well advised to install quite a bit more than
> than Apple's minimum requirement of 128 Mb.
>
> However, I am skeptical that this explains Richard's problem.
> Insufficient RAM will slow down OS X, perhaps drastically, but it should
> not cause things (like Netscape Mail) to cease working. I think you will
> have to look elsewhere than the amount of RAM to explain the problem.
>
> Seems to me Joe's suggestion of carefully checking email settings
> such as incoming and outgoing server is more likely to be the sort
> of thing that will solve the problem.
Steve:
What you are saying makes sense -- on paper. As a computer professional who
works with several clients in the corporate world (some of whom actually use
Macs and OSX), I've learned that reality isn't always what we think it is,
what we have reasoned it to be, nor what we would like it to be.
When I've encountered unexpected behavior in a computer running OSX (even
bizarre behavior), it has NEVER been on a computer that has been maxxed out
with memory. It has nearly always been a computer with "skimpy" memory.
Why? I don't have a clue. I know from experience that many such weird
problems have been solved by throwing more memory at it. My guess is that
some programs seem to handle lesser amounts of memory more gracefully than
others.
The practical side of the matter is that it's a lot cheaper and easier to
install more memory when the amount of memory is marginal. If the problem
still exists after adding more memory, then one needs to pursue other
possibilities. The memory is not wasted, as the computer will perform more
efficiently . . . and the cost of memory would be less than the costs of
pursuing other possibilities.
Of course, this is for business, where time is money. They cannot afford to
have someone on the payroll endlessly tinkering, but someone on their home
computer has no such costs. However, that also does not figure in the angst
and anguish of the home user! 8-)
As always, my opinion, and worth exactly what you paid for it!
Tom Lundeen
------------------------------
Date: April 15, 2004
From: Alain_Goubault_de_Brugière
Subject: Re: OSX and Memory
> I have been helping at my son's school all Mac computer lab. Last year
> we upgraded to OSX Jaguar on all 30 "slot loader" iMacs (350-500's) I
> found that Jaguar work very well with 128 megs of ram, as an experiment
> I installed Panther on both types of machines and it works but very
> slow. I have Jaguar running on a older tray loader, also with 128 megs
> of ram with good results. If you are looking for Ram, check out
> Staples Office Supplies At least once a month they have 256/133 ram
> chips for $29.95 after rebate and 128/133 for $19.95 . You can mix PC
> 100 and PC133 with no problems. Make sure all of your older programs
> will work with OS 9.2.2, I found that some older programs no longer run
> after we upgraded to OSX/9.2.2.
I have an iMac II DV 400 with 521 Mb of RAM. Jaguar was running very
smoothly without the need to swap on disk, so I my computer was rarely
restarted.
Since I have installed Panther, this big ammount of memory does not
seem sufficient any more. After a while, the applications become very
slow and I need to restart at least once a week in order to retrieve
some speed.
Alain Goubault
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Date: April 15, 2004
From: Steve W. Jackson
Subject: Re: calendar
Mary Anne Drobnak <ChoirMm@xxx_com> wrote:
> A cry for help! My Reunion 8.05 is running on an eMac G4. Every time I
> go to open Reunion I get the calendar. It's locked into that position.
> I've tried going to the Manual contents or asking the help screen but
> the Manual has been no help.
>
> Luckily, I backed it up but I would still like to open the program on my
> hard disk. I will appreciate your suggestions.
Mary Anne,
If I understand correctly, here's how to get rid of the calendar at
startup. Select the "Startup..." item near the bottom of the Options
menu. In the dialog, choose the Calendar tab and then uncheck the
checkbox there that tells Reunion to show the Calendar each time you
start up. This should take care of your problem.
= Steve =
--
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
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Date: April 16, 2004
From: aliciajens
Subject: Re: calendar
Mary Anne Drobnak <ChoirMm@xxx_com> wrote:
> A cry for help! My Reunion 8.05 is running on an eMac G4. Every time I
> go to open Reunion I get the calendar. It's locked into that position.
> I've tried going to the Manual contents or asking the help screen but
> the Manual has been no help.
>
> Luckily, I backed it up but I would still like to open the program on my
> hard disk. I will appreciate your suggestions.
Mary Ann,
This is something I actually know (amazingly)...
Go to 'Options',
Let go clicking on 'Start Up',
a box will open up...click on the 'Calendar' tab and uncheck the 'on
start up calendar will open'...
Done!
Good Searching to All,
Alicia Jensen
Southern California
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Date: April 16, 2004
From: Frank Mitchell
Subject: Re: calendar
Mary Anne Drobnak <ChoirMm@xxx_com> asked
> My Reunion 8.05 is running on an eMac G4. Every time I go to open
> Reunion I get the calendar. It's locked into that position. I've tried
> going to the Manual contents or asking the help screen but the Manual
> has been no help.
Click on Help in the menubar and select Search the Manual...
Enter Calendar into the Words. box and click on Search.
The top item in the resulting list will be Startup options (underlined).
Click on that and the manual will tell you how to turn the Calendar
Greetings on.
Obviously, in your case you should uncheck the selection box indicated.
-- Frank Mitchell, Scottsdale, Arizona
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Date: April 16, 2004
From: robert mcalear
Subject: Correction re: Unicode request
Actually, on further investigation, "U.S. Extended" works better for me
than Unicode for Croatian diacritical marks. Sorry, about the
misinformation in my previous post (4/15/04 #5). Are there any plans
for "U.S. Extended" to be added?
Bob, in northern California
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Date: April 16, 2004
From: Margaret
Subject: Preparing Relative list for GEDCOM export.
I prepared a Relative list in AppleWorks which I wanted to export as a
GEDCOM file, but can't find out how to do it. See message #1 under Talk
Digest 3/13/04.
Margaret Davidson
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Date: April 16, 2004
From: Al Poulin
Subject: Mac OS: Moving Files From Your Older Macintosh to a New One
Several weeks ago, there was a thread on this subject. I forwarded some
info to about five listers here who requested it.
The subject line is the title of an excellent Apple technical article at:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25575
Yesterday's "Apple eNews" featured this item.
--
Al Poulin
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Date: April 16, 2004
From: Daniel R. Killoran,Ph.D.
Subject: Swap space in OS-X
Tom Lundeen <tom@xxxxxxx_org> wrote:
> Steve:
>
> What you are saying makes sense -- on paper. As a computer professional
> who works with several clients in the corporate world (some of whom
> actually use Macs and OSX), I've learned that reality isn't always what
> we think it is, what we have reasoned it to be, nor what we would like
> it to be.
>
> When I've encountered unexpected behavior in a computer running OSX
> (even bizarre behavior), it has NEVER been on a computer that has been
> maxxed out with memory. It has nearly always been a computer with
> "skimpy" memory.
>
> Why? I don't have a clue. I know from experience that many such weird
> problems have been solved by throwing more memory at it. My guess is
> that some programs seem to handle lesser amounts of memory more
> gracefully than others.
Tom,
One thing to remember is swap space. The way OS-X is usually set up,
this is allocated on the boot partition. Unfortunately, everything
else under the sun is also put there, & sooner of later it gets used
up or, more usually, fragmented. This is why, when setting up OS-X
for people, I ALWAYS set up a separate small partition for the swap
space, and dedicate it to that alone. This strategy has been totally
successful for me - nobody with such a setup has had problems with
the OS. It was more important in 10.1 than with Jaguar, and I don't
yet have enough experience with Panther, but I do it anyway.
Dan Killoran
------------------------------
Date: April 16, 2004
From: Daniel R. Killoran,Ph.D.
Subject: Slow panther
"Alain_Goubault_de_Brugiere" <alain.goubault@xxxx_fr> wrote:
> > I have been helping at my son's school all Mac computer lab. Last year
> > we upgraded to OSX Jaguar on all 30 "slot loader" iMacs (350-500's) I
> ...snip...
> > will work with OS 9.2.2, I found that some older programs no longer run
> > after we upgraded to OSX/9.2.2.
>
>I have an iMac II DV 400 with 521 Mb of RAM. Jaguar was running very
>smoothly without the need to swap on disk, so I my computer was rarely
>restarted.
>
>Since I have installed Panther, this big ammount of memory does not
>seem sufficient any more. After a while, the applications become very
>slow and I need to restart at least once a week in order to retrieve
>some speed.
>
>Alain Goubault
I have been running Panther on a Dual 876 MHz G4 tower with only 256
Meg RAM since Panther was released and have had NO trouble with
slowdown. I can only make 2 suggestions:
1) You may need to clean out some of your web caches - most browsers
have a way to do this.
2) You may be running short of contiguous disk space in which to do
your swapping (see my message to Tom Lundeen). As a quick check, move
some files that total MUCH more than your RAM - say at least a Gig -
to another partition. Then without restarting, check the speed again.
Ironically, your trouble may be TOO MUCH RAM! You see, you need a
block of contiguous disk space in your boot partition to do your
swapping in, and it must be able to hold your RAM.
Dan Killoran
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Date: April 16, 2004
From: Ruth Ann Edney
Subject: Source citations
I've been working on my source citations, and have a couple of
questions/problems.
I use the separate "Detail" field for page numbers. However, when
displayed in the citation, this is at the end. Is there a way to move
it so it follows the title?
I tried, under Options/Define Source fields, to set it so that Editor
would be displayed before that field, so I don't have to type it in
each time. However, when I opened a report, that was not present. I
also set it to not display the Library/Archive, yet that still appears.
What am I missing with this?
I enjoy this list very much, and am constantly learning something new
which I can do with Reunion. I do, however, second the desire to have
the ability to create a book format, if possible.
Ruth
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Date: April 17, 2004
From: ChoirMm
Subject: Thank you
A big thank you for your help with my problem calendar. In fact I have
opened each option and set them according to my wishes. Thanks again
Mary Anne Drobnak
choirmm@xxx_com
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Date: April 17, 2004
From: Al Poulin
Subject: Re: Swap space in OS-X
"Daniel R. Killoran,Ph.D." <drkilloran@xxxxxxxxx_net> wrote:
> One thing to remember is swap space. The way OS-X is usually set up,
> this is allocated on the boot partition. Unfortunately, everything
> else under the sun is also put there, & sooner of later it gets used
> up or, more usually, fragmented. This is why, when setting up OS-X
> for people, I ALWAYS set up a separate small partition for the swap
> space, and dedicate it to that alone. This strategy has been totally
> successful for me - nobody with such a setup has had problems with
> the OS. It was more important in 10.1 than with Jaguar, and I don't
> yet have enough experience with Panther, but I do it anyway.
Are you talking about swap space that OS-X uses for itself? If so,
where and how do you set it up? I am familiar with setting up scratch
space on a separate partition for applications.
Thank you.
--
Al Poulin
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Date: April 19, 2004
From: Tom Robinson
Subject: Re: Source Search
> That said, I believe what you were attempting was to use the Find
> Anything command and to include use of a particular source item as one
> of the search criteria. So far as I'm aware, there's no way to do
> this at present.
I haven't been following this thread closely, but can't this already be
accomplished?
1. Go into the Source window and select "Show Links to Source" on the
Source you're after
2. Select "Unmark Everybody in Family File, then Mark Everybody in List"
3. Do a Find Anything and include Person Marked as one of the criteria
Cheers
------------------------------
Date: April 19, 2004
From: Tom Ritch
Subject: Re: OS X swap space
Al Poulin <alpoulin@xxx_net> wrote:
> Are you talking about swap space that OS-X uses for itself? If so,
> where and how do you set it up? I am familiar with setting up scratch
> space on a separate partition for applications.
Try SwapSwap. It has not been updated in a year, but it might do what
you want.
www.sciencequest.org/support/computers/mac/repair_topics/
application_specific/osx/swapswapvm.html
Tom
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Date: April 20, 2004
From: Rod Hagen
Subject: Re: Updating to OSX on an iMac 400
Richard I. Mather <increase@xxxxxxxxx_com> wrote:
> I have an iMAC bought Jan. 2000. It has OS 9.2.2 installed with 128 MGB
> RAM. Included is FireWire port and cable, USB and Ethernet input plugs.
> Once before I loaded OS 10 and could not access my incoming/outgoing
> E-Mail msgs. Can anyone give me the sequence to use in installing OS 10
> cleanly? I use Netscape for Mail and on the Internet. Explorer is also
> loaded. My service provider is WIDOMAKER of Williamsburg, VA.
Hi Richard,
Its possible that you will have to re-enter your information
concerning your ISP information and your email account when you
upgrade.
One problem is that you don't mention which version of OSX you are
planning to use, and whether you are connecting to the net over a
telephone modem, or through broadband. This makes it hard to give you
proper instructions.
If you are planning to upgrade an iMac 400 to Jaguar (OSX version
10.2) or Panther- 10.3 (which I would strongly recommend - its
vastly better than the early versions of OSX) then its critically
important that you "upgrade your firmware" to version 4.1.9 before
doing so. Otherwise you will end up with a dead iMac that will
require a great deal of reviving and require technical skills beyond
your level of knowledge.
I strongly endorse the suggestion that you get more RAM before doing
the upgrade. Running in 128 Meg will place more stress on your HD,
as it will be having to write "swap files" to disk much more
intensively than if you had more RAM. The early DV400 in particular
has a nasty record of "losing" hard drives, and a number of people
with this particular computer, and small amounts of RAM, have
reported HD failures soon after upgrading to OSX. For more
information check out the Apple CRT iMac discussion board at
http://discussions.info.apple.com/WebX?14@xxx_jyhIaBqdjgH.1@.ef9fbd1
You will need to register to post on the boards (you can read them as
a "guest" first if you like though) , but its free and well worth
doing. The iMac CRT discussion group , in particular, is full of very
knowledgeable people who are familiar with the quirks of your own
particular computer model. If you pop over there we will be able to
answer your questions more thoroughly.
Cheers
Rod
--
Rod Hagen
email: rodhagen@xxxxxxxx_net.au
Hurstbridge, Victoria, Australia
WWW http://www.netspace.net.au/~rodhagen
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Date: April 20, 2004
From: ikemura
Subject: Re: Source Search
Tom Robinson <tamati@xxxxxxxx_net.nz> wrote:
> > That said, I believe what you were attempting was to use the Find
> > Anything command and to include use of a particular source item as one
> > of the search criteria. So far as I'm aware, there's no way to do
> > this at present.
>
> I haven't been following this thread closely, but can't this already be
> accomplished?
>
> 1. Go into the Source window and select "Show Links to Source" on the
> Source you're after
>
> 2. Select "Unmark Everybody in Family File, then Mark Everybody in List"
>
> 3. Do a Find Anything and include Person Marked as one of the criteria
>
> Cheers
THANK YOU! That was incredibly helpful as I have been wondering this
same thing....
we all get used to using certain functions in Reunion, but there are
obviously so many we never discover.
Thank you again!
Jane
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Date: April 20, 2004
From: Steve W. Jackson
Subject: Re: Little changes I'd like to see
"Jason Long" <sturmvogel_66@xxxxxxx_com> wrote:
> Folks,
> Here are a few of the minor changes that I'd like to see Leicester make.
As a courtesy to Mr. Leister, for whom the company is named, I'll
correctly use the name of our friends at Leister Productions. :-)
[ snip ]
> When deleting notes fields why do I have to highlight the complete note
> and hit backspace because the delete note button doesn't work for a
> single note? It only works for multiple notes.
You may be misunderstanding how this works, or I'm not understanding
what you're referring to here. If you open an individual's card and
go to the Notes tab, you will see a small pane at left listing each
of the notes that are present. Selecting one of those items in that
pane will then allow you to delete the selected Note via the "Delete
Note" button -- and there's no way to select multiple Note types.
= Steve =
--
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
------------------------------
Date: April 20, 2004
From: Steve W. Jackson
Subject: Re: OS X swap space
Tom Ritch <ritch@xxx_com> wrote:
> Al Poulin <alpoulin@xxx_net> wrote:
>
> > Are you talking about swap space that OS-X uses for itself? If so,
> > where and how do you set it up? I am familiar with setting up scratch
> > space on a separate partition for applications.
>
> Try SwapSwap. It has not been updated in a year, but it might do what
> you want.
>
> www.sciencequest.org/support/computers/mac/repair_topics/
> application_specific/osx/swapswapvm.html
I honestly would not recommend that product to anybody if it's still
in beta and not updated since nearly a year ago. I think you're
taking a very great risk if you do try it. It's also targeted at
Jaguar, up through 10.2.6. A wise Mac user who's still using Jaguar
has long since updated to 10.2.8 -- and if you haven't, then you're
missing out on the benefits and improvements.
In addition, despite the claims at that site to the contrary, it is
VERY unwise to tinker with virtual memory settings in ANY operating
system based on Unix unless you know a great deal about what you're
doing.
I've been developing software for nearly 23 years. In that time,
I've had quite a number of projects where I've been forced to acquire
at least a modicum of system administration knowledge on several
varieties of Unix. And I can tell you for certain that there are
some misconceptions floating around about this issue. First, "swap
space", as it's commonly called, cannot get fragmented. The HFS+
filesystem in Mac OS X has a built-in defragging for files. But even
without that, the memory management system is constantly relocating
items within these files to optimize its ability to retrieve items
from "virtual memory" (this "caching" thing is a complete science
unto itself!). OS X is based on the popular BSD Unix, where memory
management is quite mature. You'll note, if you care to visit your
/var/vm directory, that these files are located there and typically
have names like swapfile0, swapfile1, etc. I have four files there
totaling roughly the 512MB in size that matches my real RAM. OS X
swap space can get "used up", as someone here recently put it, but
that's actually more rare than you might think. Unless you're one of
those people who keeps a dozen or more really powerful, memory hungry
programs open and actively performing heavy duty tasks at virtually
any moment, you're not likely to have them supplemented. Instead,
you're going to see your system's dreaded "spinning color wheel" --
and, sadly, Panther is worse than Jaguar because it's doing more
behind the scenes. In general, I'm of the opinion that the best
solution is in two parts: get all the RAM you can reasonably afford,
and make sure that you've got plenty of free space on your boot
volume.
The number one issue with creating a separate volume or partition to
hold these files is knowing how much space to give it. The rule of
thumb in recent years has been to never let your boot volume (which
is where these files get created by default) get below 10% free
space. With the 30, 40, 60GB and larger drives becoming so common,
that means you're leaving 3, 4, 6GB or more free for swap space.
Since information on just how large swap files will be is relatively
scarce for most of us, I personally feel that you're actually better
off simply moving much of your work (as in applications, documents,
etc.) to another volume and ensuring that the boot volume has more
than adequate free space available at all times -- that is, if you're
really concerned that you've got an issue with swap space, or if
you're using an older system where boot volume space really is at a
premium.
However, if you really do want to look into a separate partition or
volume for this purpose, I recommend you avail yourself of one of the
most overlooked resources available to Mac users: the Apple
Discussion Forums at Apple's web site. It's amazing what you'll find
there. This message is my personal opinion, based on my own
experiences, and there are participants there who are much smarter
than I'll ever be. And it's not out of date. :-)
= Steve =
--
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
------------------------------
Date: April 21, 2004
From: Mike Horst
Subject: Re: Preparing Relative list for GEDCOM export.
Margaret <mriver@xxxxx_net> wrote:
> I prepared a Relative list in AppleWorks which I wanted to export as a
> GEDCOM file, but can't find out how to do it.
You don't need to send the list to AppleWorks to do this.
Choose Find -> Relatives, and Identify the person's relatives. Then
you can create the List of relatives in Reunion. Once you have that,
use the "Unmark Everybody in Family File, then Mark Everybody in
List" option in the Mark pop-up menu (in the bottom-left corner of
the Relative List window). That will mark the relatives in the list.
Close the list and export marked people in a Gedcom file. That should
do what you want.
Mike Horst
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: April 21, 2004
From: Mike Horst
Subject: Re: Source citations
Ruth Ann Edney <re@xxxxxxxx_net> wrote:
> I've been working on my source citations, and have a couple of
> questions/problems.
>
> I use the separate "Detail" field for page numbers. However, when
> displayed in the citation, this is at the end. Is there a way to move it
> so it follows the title?
If the citation's "Detail" field is shown with the source (in the
endnotes of a report), it is always shown after the source itself,
rather than in the middle of it.
You can choose Options -> Reports, and select Sources from the list
of options to adjust some other settings regarding source citation
"details."
> I tried, under Options/Define Source fields, to set it so that Editor
> would be displayed before that field, so I don't have to type it in each
> time. However, when I opened a report, that was not present.
The default field order for a certain source type can be set by
choosing Options -> Define -> Source Types and working from there.
However, this only changes the default order.
For sources you've already created, you'll need to adjust the order
of the fields for each source you wish to change. To do this, choose
List -> Sources, and double click on the source you wish to edit.
Drag the fields to whatever order you choose to use.
> I also set it to not display the Library/Archive, yet that still
> appears. What am I missing with this?
This can be done by choosing Options -> Define -> Source Fields,
selecting the Library/Archive field, checking Exclude from Endnotes,
and clicking Save. This will affect all sources which use this field.
Mike Horst
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: April 21, 2004
From: Daniel R. Killoran,Ph.D.
Subject: Re: SwapSwap WARNING!
Tom Ritch <ritch@xxx_com> wrote:
> Al Poulin <alpoulin@xxx_net> wrote:
>
> > Are you talking about swap space that OS-X uses for itself? If so,
> > where and how do you set it up? I am familiar with setting up scratch
> > space on a separate partition for applications.
>
> Try SwapSwap. It has not been updated in a year, but it might do what
> you want.
>
> www.sciencequest.org/support/computers/mac/repair_topics/
> application_specific/osx/swapswapvm.html
Please note that SwapSwap is designed FOR JAGUAR (10.2.x) ONLY!
Panther uses a completely different scheme for setting up swap files.
SwapSwap is a GREAT method for the older system, but I wouldn't try
it on Panther unless you are pretty blithe about re-installing the OS.
I do reccomend that you read the article at the referenced website,
as it will teach you a LOT about the problem!
Dan Killoran
------------------------------
Date: April 21, 2004
From: Tom Ritch
Subject: Re: SwapSwap WARNING!
Daniel R. Killoran,Ph.D. wrote:
Tom Ritch <ritch@xxx_com>
>> Al Poulin <alpoulin@xxx_net> wrote:
>>
>>> Are you talking about swap space that OS-X uses for itself? If so,
>>> where and how do you set it up? I am familiar with setting up
>>> scratch space on a separate partition for applications.
>>
>> Try SwapSwap. It has not been updated in a year, but it might do what
>> you want.
>>
>> www.sciencequest.org/support/computers/mac/repair_topics/
>> application_specific/osx/swapswapvm.html
>>
>> Tom
>
> Please note that SwapSwap is designed FOR JAGUAR (10.2.x) ONLY!
>
> Panther uses a completely different scheme for setting up swap files.
>
> SwapSwap is a GREAT method for the older system, but I wouldn't try it
> on Panther unless you are pretty blithe about re-installing the OS.
>
> I do reccomend that you read the article at the referenced website, as
> it will teach you a LOT about the problem!
>
> Dan Killoran
Thanks for the correction and warning. I had not used SwapSwap before,
but found it as a suggested replacement for the even more out of date
Swap Cop. After spending the last day reinstalling Panther (as Dan
suggests might be necessary), I recommend against using SwapSwap.
Does anyone know a better way to move swap files?
Tom
------------------------------
Date: April 21, 2004
From: Joyce Bremer Glover
Subject: search for twins
Is there anyway to do a search for twins in the file? I have them all
marked with a color-coded button, but I couldn't find anyway to run a
search using the "find anything" function.
Thanks,
Joyce Glover
------------------------------
Date: April 21, 2004
From: CraigTen
Subject: Moving Family Cards
On several occasions I have found that I have a family card in the wrong
family file. Is there a way to "cut and paste" a family card into another
family file without going through the Gedcom export/import route?
Craig TenBroeck
------------------------------
Date: April 21, 2004
From: Bill Nash
Subject: MrSid/OSX
Several days ago, someone said they had been successful in getting
MrSid to work with OSX. I have tried to recreate that and only made
matters worse. Safari now insists on having the plug-in and I have
lost the capability of non-MrSid viewing. Has anyone else been able to
make this combination work or failing that figured out how to make
Safari use non-MrSid loading of the images.
Thanks,
Bill Nash
Wimberley, TX
------------------------------
Date: April 21, 2004
From: Jim Merwin
Subject: Re: SwapSwap WARNING!
I had used a separate partition for swap files on OS X 10.0.x, 10.1.x,
and maybe even on 10.2.x (not sure about the last one). I first bought
into the theoretical benefits but I can't say I saw any benefit to
doing this and I don't recommend others do it, either.
In some ways, creating a separate partition dedicated to swap files
actually aggravates the problem that you could be trying to avoid --
system slowdown resulting from the hard disk becoming too full.
Creating a swap volume of, say, 1 to 2GB just makes the primary volume
where everything else resides that much smaller. And as Mr. Jackson
noted, file fragmentation doesn't start to become a concern until a
disk is at least 80% full and probably more like 90% full. Panther
incorporates some degree of de-fragmentation ability as well. Now some
have claimed that moving the swap files to a separate disk altogether
allows you to be reading and writing the swap files at the same time as
the primary disk is reading and writing. That might have some truth
but it's also somewhat dubious especially considering how much faster
disk drives have become over the years.
Here's a way to determine where your machine is memory-wise:
Open the Terminal application and at the prompt type "top" without the
quotes. You'll see a whole bunch of text appear but the key line to
focus on is line 6 which is the last line in the first paragraph.
There, the pagein and pageout data is listed. Look at the numbers for
each that are enclosed in parenthesis. Those numbers indicate the
frequency that the system is reading from and writing to the swap space
on the hard drive. If the numbers consistently stay below a number
like 10 (excursions higher are OK), then your physical memory in the
Mac is probably sufficient. Of course, there's also the theory on
memory that "too much is not enough". If the numbers are consistently
higher then you're either working in too many applications or you need
to get more physical memory. Moving the swap files really can't and
won't cover up for that need.
------------------------------
Date: April 22, 2004
From: Daniel R. Killoran,Ph.D.
Subject: Re: OS X swap space
Steve W. Jackson wrote (inter alia):
> get all the RAM you can reasonably afford,
> and make sure that you've got plenty of free space on your boot
> volume.
...and to use a hackneyed expression "there's the rub!"
The trouble is that most install programs, either system stuff or
application, install their stuff by default on the boot volume!
So unless you are meticulous (as I am) about installing on another
partition, or moving the stuff after installation, you are eventually
going to run short of space on your boot drive. The purpose of
putting swap elsewhere is to put it where it won't be bothered by
that. It isn't the swap files that get fragmented - it's everything
else!
Dan Killoran
------------------------------
Date: April 22, 2004
From: Steve W. Jackson
Subject: Re: search for twins
"Joyce Glover" <rcbmom@xxxxxxx_net> wrote:
> Is there anyway to do a search for twins in the file? I have them all
> marked with a color-coded button, but I couldn't find anyway to run a
> search using the "find anything" function.
Joyce,
What you have to search for is a couple with some number of children
carrying the selected child status. So go to the Find Anything
dialog and click on Couples at the top. For conditions, you'll see
"Child Status", where you can select from among all the defined ones.
To find all couples with one or more sets of twins, you can search
for "# of Twins" not equal to 0. Unfortunately, that may not be
entirely correct if you don't actually have both twins, for instance,
unless I'm missing something someplace. But it should get you
started.
= Steve =
--
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
------------------------------
Date: April 22, 2004
From: Brian Columbus
Subject: Automatic use of a source
I have some information I received on paper several years ago from
another researcher, in hopes we'd find a connection. I'm trying to take
that information (as well as other similar partial genealogies) and
compile the info into a single database, and thank goodness for
Reunion! But, as I'm doing this I'd like to be able to automatically
site the source. In this case, it's all second hand, but nonetheless
I'd like to note where I got the info. I've set up a new Reunion file
to enter all this, and set up a source code as "John Doe Family
documentation, received..." etc. and set it as a general source, so it
attaches itself automatically to each new person. But...
What I want to do is be able to automatically set that source each time
I enter an event for a person or family. (He gave me plenty of dates
and details.) Is there a way to do set that? I've only begun entering
his stuff, and I'd change the setting when finished so as to not mess
up other info that I might throw into this database. Could I possibly
select all events after I'm finished and assign the source then?
I doubt any of this, but does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks in advance....
Brian
------------------------------
Date: April 22, 2004
From: Ramona
Subject: Bold buttons
Since I upgraded to R 8 some 0f my 1st child direct line bold button
disappeared. How can I change this without doing them 1 by 1. I have gone
to options direst lines bold but must not under stand because it does not
mark the first child for me.
Also on some of my family cards like my son has three children it now
shows his name as the third child and lost the third child some place this
has happened on a few cards is there a way to check them or do I have to go
thru them individually? Will appreciate any help.
Again I thank you for all the past help you have given me.
Ramona Schmitz
ramona@xxxxxx_net
------------------------------
Date: April 22, 2004
From: Tim Davis
Subject: Re: MrSid/OSX
Hello Bill,
> Several days ago, someone said they had been successful in getting
> MrSid to work with OSX.
Sorry. It turns out I was using the default HTML Viewer rather than
MrSID.
The only way to use MrSID is in Classic, which is not so bad if desired.
If you want to view the images with HTML Viewer again (on Ancestry),
click on the link below the image "View this image with the HTML
Viewer".
Tim Davis
------------------------------
Date: April 22, 2004
From: Steve W. Jackson
Subject: Re: MrSid/OSX
Bill Nash <bill_nash@xxx_com> wrote:
> Several days ago, someone said they had been successful in getting
> MrSid to work with OSX. I have tried to recreate that and only made
> matters worse. Safari now insists on having the plug-in and I have
> lost the capability of non-MrSid viewing. Has anyone else been able to
> make this combination work or failing that figured out how to make
> Safari use non-MrSid loading of the images.
Bill,
After communicating with the person who was reporting that, I think
it's safe to say that he was mistaken. In fact, MrSID is no longer a
supported technology at LizardTech, though the *.sid format on
Windows is handled by a newer kind of viewer. The existing plug-in
is not compatible with OS X and never will be.
If you're referring to Ancestry.com census (or other) images, you'll
see a link near the bottom of the page saying something like "View
this with the HTML viewer". That should take care of your problem,
unless you want to use Netscape 4.x or Internet Explorer under
Classic. If you have further problems getting this worked out, feel
free to send me direct mail and I'll see if I can help you get it
resolved.
= Steve =
--
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
------------------------------
Date: April 22, 2004
From: Dave
Subject: Re: MrSid/OSX
Bill Nash <bill_nash@xxx_com> wrote:
> Several days ago, someone said they had been successful in getting
> MrSid to work with OSX. I have tried to recreate that and only made
> matters worse. Safari now insists on having the plug-in and I have
> lost the capability of non-MrSid viewing. Has anyone else been able to
> make this combination work or failing that figured out how to make
> Safari use non-MrSid loading of the images.
Bill,
If you are talking about using it with Ancestry, there is no need to
under OS X. You can view all the pages just fine without any plugin. In
fact downloading the plugin actually messes things up, instead of
making it better. There have been a lot of confusing discussions about
this, but most of them are related to OS 9, I believe. I was also
(surprisingly) able to get some useful and intelligent help on the
topic from their support staff, in spite of having a Mac.
FYI, Dave
------------------------------
Date: April 23, 2004
From: AEPalmer
Subject: Re: search for twins
"Joyce Glover" <rcbmom@xxxxxxx_net> wrote:
> Is there anyway to do a search for twins in the file? I have them all
> marked with a color-coded button, but I couldn't find anyway to run a
> search using the "find anything" function.
Using Find All (Couples), go to CHILD STATUS --> # OF TWINS and set it to
MORE THAN "0" (Zero). This finds any family that has at least one set of
twins. If you wish to include stilborn twins, triplets, et al, you will
have to perform multiple finds.
Regards, Arnold
---
AE Palmer <aepalmer@xxxxxx_com>
------------------------------
Date: April 23, 2004
From: Hafcjf
Subject: Re: Search for twins
Joyce,
I use the coded button for twins, too, but I also put (twin) in parenthesis
in the suffix field. I just find it convenient to see "twin" on the screen
to clue me when I pull someone's card up. The suffix field offers
sufficient space that I can include a "Jr." or "M.D." first and then add
twin. And, by doing it this way, twin appears on the various reports and
charts, too. Plus, it's easy to do a "find for anything" and indicate the
suffix file for those that contain twin.
I'm sure there are sticklers who won't like this method, but it works for
me.
Cathy J. Flamholtz
------------------------------
Date: April 23, 2004
From: AEPalmer
Subject: Re: Moving Family Cards
Craig TenBroeck at CraigTen@xxx_com wrote:
> On several occasions I have found that I have a family card in the wrong
> family file. Is there a way to "cut and paste" a family card into another
> family file without going through the Gedcom export/import route?
Ah. Don't I wish. (Hint, hint!)
For the record, and newbies who haven't done this before, one can make an
end-run around the problem. Since the process is going from one Reunion file
to another, the process is as follows:
(The Sending file = FILE-A; receiving file = FILE-B)
Both files:
1) Make a copy of both working files (FILE-A & FILE-B).
FILE-A:
2) Find all families you wish to transfer and mark them.
3) When you are sure you have all individuals marked, delete all UNMARKED
people. You now have only those people you want to transfer in FILE-A.
4) Close out this file (Reunion will not import open files).
FILE-B:
5) Open FILE-B.
6) "Import" FILE-A into this file.
7) Use "Match & Merge People" to combine the newly imported cards into the
existing members of this file.
8) Use "Match & Merge Sources" to combine the newly imported sources into
any existing duplicates.
9) Make this file your "New" working database. (Archive - not destroy -
the old working database).
Sidebar:
As Craig suggests, using GEDCOM transfers may be both faster and simpler
to move cards from one file to another. I find, however, that using the
above process to be of value whenever I am moving large numbers of cards
(100s if not 1,000s). When I am making such transfers I can - and will -
spend significant amounts of time massaging the data in FILE-A so that it
matches all of the standardization criteria I have made for myself before
making the actual import. This keeps the data uniform throughout the
resulting file.
Regards,
--
AE Palmer <aepalmer@xxxxxx_com>
------------------------------
Date: April 24, 2004
From: F.J. van Bodegom
Subject: Moving Family Cards
In the Digest of 4/23/04 as an answer on the question of Craig TenBroeck
(moving family cards), mr or mrs AE Palmer gave a solution and he wrote:
> 2) Find all families you wish to transfer and mark them.
> 3) When you are sure you have all individuals marked, delete all
> UNMARKED people. You now have only those people you want to
> transfer in FILE-A.
> 4) Close out this file (Reunion will not import open files)
But there is NO NEED to remove or to delete the unmarked people ! !.
When importing a family file, you can choose: all people or Marked
people.
I really doubt if the Gedcom is easier for an non-experienced user.
But Mr. Palmer has right: don't use the Gedcom facility in this case of
tranferring data (Reunion to Reunion); one of the major drawbacks is:
you loose all your formatting of text ! (and there are more reasons for
'don't use Gedcom')
Frans van Bodegom
Dutch Reunion User Group
------------------------------
Date: April 25, 2004
From: Ngchesnutt
Subject: Reports are missing!
Help, any time that I go to Create and ask for any kind of chart or
report it just disappears! Normally they come up on my desktop. Where
are they hiding and how do I correct this problem?
------------------------------
Date: April 25, 2004
From: Jan Decoster
Subject: changing source person
L.S,
Is there an easy way to change the "source person" from myself into my
son? i.e. I want to assign nr 1 to my son in stead of me. And I should
become nr2, my wife nr 3 and so on
Thanks a lot.
--
Jan Decoster
Kroonstraat 8
B-8000 Brugge
+ 32 50 31 15 00
Jan.Decoster2@xxxxxxx_be
------------------------------
Date: April 25, 2004
From: fmlyhntr
Subject: Help with Found Lists
I discovered that I have several "found lists" with the same name and
would like to delete the extras, but when I open the edit "found list"
window it won't let me move down. (It's stuck on the first one). A
window opens when I try to move down and says "that name is already used".
Is there another way to delete the earlier lists? For that matter, why
can't I edit or delete any of my "found lists"?
I'm using Reunion 8.03 on system 9.2
Christina
------------------------------
Date: April 26, 2004
From: Steve W. Jackson
Subject: Re: Reports are missing!
<Ngchesnutt@xxx_com> wrote:
> Help, any time that I go to Create and ask for any kind of chart or
> report it just disappears! Normally they come up on my desktop. Where
> are they hiding and how do I correct this problem?
A couple possibilities come to mind.
First, make sure you've chosen the "destination" you intended in the
dialog where you gave the report a title, etc.
Secondly, and I suspect more likely, make sure you've told Reunion
where you want reports to go. Go to the Options menu and choose
"Reports..." there. Select "Report Folder" at left, and the right
side will show you where Reunion is going to put your reports. If
this isn't where you thought they were going, it should at least be
where the "missing" ones can be found. Then change it to wherever
you like, even if it's your Desktop.
= Steve =
--
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
http://homepage.mac.com/stevejackson/
------------------------------
Date: April 26, 2004
From: Steve W. Jackson
Subject: Re: changing source person
Jan Decoster <Jan.Decoster2@xxxxxxx_be> wrote:
> Is there an easy way to change the "source person" from myself into my
> son? i.e. I want to assign nr 1 to my son in stead of me. And I should
> become nr2, my wife nr 3 and so on
Jan,
Those are actually two separate things. The "source person" is used
in computing relationships or listing relatives, and can be changed
at any time. What you're referring to is the person ID number.
Those numbers can not be changed. And they don't really mean
anything anyway. They're not put into any reports. They only have
meaning within Reunion itself.
= Steve =
--
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
http://homepage.mac.com/stevejackson/
------------------------------
Date: April 26, 2004
From: Steve W. Jackson
Subject: Re: Help with Found Lists
Christina <fmlyhntr@xxxxxx_net> wrote:
> I discovered that I have several "found lists" with the same name and
> would like to delete the extras, but when I open the edit "found list"
> window it won't let me move down. (It's stuck on the first one). A
> window opens when I try to move down and says "that name is already
> used".
>
> Is there another way to delete the earlier lists? For that matter, why
> can't I edit or delete any of my "found lists"?
>
> I'm using Reunion 8.03 on system 9.2
Christina,
Let me strongly encourage you to update to the latest maintenance
release of Reunion. It's at
<http://www.leisterpro.com/doc/Version8/Updatev8.html>. It will
contain all available fixes to date.
I've never personally seen just what you describe, and it could be
that you've hit on a bug. But I can suggest a couple things you
should try.
First, go to your File menu and choose "Repair..." (preferably after
you get the 8.05 update). This will check to ensure your file has no
damage. The found lists and some other items are stored with the
file, so that damage to the overall file could be responsible for
your problem.
If that doesn't resolve it, you might try the "Save A Copy..."
command. Use the "Compact Copy" option, which will remove the index
and some other stuff stored internally. Then open the copy (which
will rebuild its index upon opening) and see if the problem is fixed.
It should be, since it should remove all your found lists. It's
possible, however, that it may not. I just did exactly that and
found that the new file caused Reunion to crash when I attempted to
open a saved Found List created for this purpose. So either my own
file is damaged or there's something else amiss...but you're using OS
9, so we may have different behavior even if my problem is a bug.
= Steve =
--
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
http://homepage.mac.com/stevejackson/
------------------------------
Date: April 26, 2004
From: Steve W. Jackson
Subject: My own Found List problem
While composing a reply to somebody else, I realized that I may have
encountered either a damaged file of my own or a bug. Here's what's
happening.
First, details: Reunion 8.05 on a Powerbook G4/800 running Panther
10.3.3.
I don't often save Found Lists, but I did so in order to verify the
accuracy of what I was sending in response to an earlier message
here. When I saved a recent Found List I had created, I then used
the Save a Copy command to create a compact copy of my family file to
the desktop. When I opened it, it rebuilt its index. When I went to
the Window menu, under Found Lists, I was a bit surprised to see the
Command-R indication next to the named Found List, though the "Recent
Found List" was disabled in the copy. But when I selected (via menu
or the keyboard combination) that saved Found List, there was a
momentary pause and then Reunion crashed. Flat out crashed. Crash
logs aren't too meaningful to me, but I can readily reproduce this
should somebody at Leister care to have a crash log file.
When I retried this on numerous occasions with the same bad result, I
went back to my original file and looked at the Found Lists on its
menu as well. I noted that none of the menu items there had
Command-R on them. Then I let go the menu and typed the Command-R
keystrokes -- nothing. So I pulled down the menu again and -- it's
there! Since then, it consistently appears that the Command-R symbol
is next to whichever Found List I most recently visited...probably as
it should be. But I just found it strange that it did NOT appear
that one time. I'm still trying to see if I did something specific
that led to it so I can report exact conditions. Oh! I just did...
If the Command-R is assigned to my one and only named list and I
delete it, then the keystroke is not reassigned to the Recent Found
List...unless I open it again.
Anyway, the bigger concern is why I'm getting that crash opening the
named Found List in a copy of my file. Not surprisingly, I can
confirm that it does NOT occur in an "exact copy", only in the
compact one.
= Steve =
--
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
http://homepage.mac.com/stevejackson/
------------------------------
Date: April 27, 2004
From: Mike Horst
Subject: Re: My own Found List problem
Steve Jackson writes above about a problem with compacting files and
saved found lists.
I did some testing here and was able to duplicate this problem.
Thanks for bringing it to our attention. We'll look into fixing it in
a future release.
Mike Horst
Leister Productions, Inc.
------------------------------
Date: April 27, 2004
From: dshap
Subject: Census Enumeration District maps
I want to obtain Census ED maps for the 1900, 1910 (if available), 1920, &
1930 US Censuses in the District of Columbia (Washington DC). NARA says
they're available at the NARA office in College Park MD, but when I phoned
their number (1-866-272-6272) and went through the options twice, I was
connected eventually to someone who said she did not know if they were
available to the public, yet NARA's main office in downtown DC says they
are very much available for sale.
Of course, if I could see the maps online, that would be wonderful, but I'm
told they aren't. I'm accustomed to connecting to genealogical databases
with lots of census info, but apparently maps aren't part of them.
Assuming someone in the large, able Reunion discussion group knows how to
do this, I'd be grateful for help. Of particular interest would be how to
find out what specific item numbers these maps have if they are for sale,
and where one finds that out.
David
------------------------------
Date: April 28, 2004
From: Beth
Subject: Pictures in Charts
HELP!
I get a "not enough RAM" message every time I try to display photos in a
descendant chart. This despite the fact that I'm using OS 9.2 with 385 MB of
built-in memory, plus 800 virtual memory. I've allocated 600 MB to the
application and have tried this with virtual memory turned off and on. My
data file is 276k, and the 75 pictures I want to display are 3MB maximum.
I've tried using "insert preferred pictures" in the chart set-up and I've
tried setting the "Select all objects", then "Put preferred pictures in box"
menu option. The techies in my office have been unsuccessful in solving this
problem; they say I have plenty of RAM. I'm starting to get very nervous,
since I should be sending my chart off to be printed on CAD for a family
reunion in May! I would sincerely appreciate any help you could give me.
Thanks,
Beth in Toronto
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Date: April 29, 2004
From: Al McCrary
Subject: Re: Pictures in Charts
Beth <elightbown@xxxxxxxxx_com> wrote:
> I get a "not enough RAM" message every time I try to display photos in a
> descendant chart. This despite the fact that I'm using OS 9.2 with 385 MB
> of built-in memory, plus 800 virtual memory. I've allocated 600 MB to the
> application and have tried this with virtual memory turned off and on. My
> data file is 276k, and the 75 pictures I want to display are 3MB maximum.
> I've tried using "insert preferred pictures" in the chart set-up and I've
> tried setting the "Select all objects", then "Put preferred pictures in
> box" menu option. The techies in my office have been unsuccessful in
> solving this problem; they say I have plenty of RAM. I'm starting to get
> very nervous, since I should be sending my chart off to be printed on CAD
> for a family reunion in May! I would sincerely appreciate any help you
> could give me.
Beth, I can not speak about your use of specific Reunion Commands
because I have not used them, but here are my thoughts on other
aspects of your stated problem.
1st, 385 Megs of Ram should be adequate if you only have Reunion
running and no other programs running in the Background but Ram is
cheap and helps solve many problems so I suggest you add 256 Megs
More.
2nd. You say you have 800 (I assume you mean 800 Megs) of Virtual
memory assigned to your Hard Drive. The general rule in assigning
vertual memory is to make it equal to your built in RAM in your case
385 Megs. NOT 800 Megs.
3 rd. You say " I've allocated 600 MB to the application and have
tried this with virtual memory turned off and on." You don't have
600 Megs of RAM to allocate ???.
Reunion Version 8.0.5 recommends 10,395 K which I triple to 30 MEGS.
4th. 75 Pict. x 40 K "average" size picture per file Totals 3.0 Megs.
This size picture file is adequate for viewing on a Computer monitor
or to e-mail but will NOT produce a printed picture larger than 5x7
in. with GOOD RESOLUTION.
5th. The general health of your Hard drive is Essential for trouble
free performance.
Your files get Fragmented over time and if the O.S. (I'm using
9.2.2), is in more than 4 fragments you will have Problems, SO I run
Disk Doctor v 5.0.3 once a month and check for corrupted files and
correct them, then hold down the "Command+ L keys to view your
"Fragmented Files and Defrayment them. I also then "Optimize" the
Disk which restructures your directory to optimize peformance.
Hope this is helpfull.
Al McCrary
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Date: April 29, 2004
From: J. Joynt
Subject: AGFA snapscan
I have a AGFA Snap Scan 1212 USB version [flat bed]. I have a new
computer and have upgraded to OSX and would like to upgrade my scanner
as well. Is there anyone that might know if this is a possibilty? I
have been to the AGFA site and can't locate the information that I
need.
I am preserving 3 very old letters, from December 0f 1892 and would
like to use the options that OS X has rather than use my old Classic
version.
Jan Joynt
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Date: April 29, 2004
From: Timothy Lundin
Subject: Re: Pictures in Charts
On Wednesday, April 28, 2004, Beth in Toronto wrote:
> I get a "not enough RAM" message every time I try to display photos in a
> descendant chart. This despite the fact that I'm using OS 9.2 with 385 MB
> of built-in memory, plus 800 virtual memory. I've allocated 600 MB to the
> application and have tried this with virtual memory turned off and on.
The only thing that comes to mind is that even though you're allocating
600 MB of RAM to Reunion, it's possible that Reunion might not be
taking or be given all of it. You probably already know this, but just
in case not, go to the apple menu and select About This Computer to see
how much memory Reunion has actually been given for the session and
how much it's using. You can leave this window open when you're
creating the chart to get a rough sense of how memory management is
working. Also, quitting all other applications can help ensure that
Reunion has the largest possible block of memory available.
Tim
http://www.familygraphics.com
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Date: April 29, 2004
From: Martin Romano Garcia
Subject: "not enough Ram" is solved in OS X
Beth <elightbown@xxxxxxxxx_com> wrote:
> I get a "not enough RAM" message every time I try to display photos in a
> descendant chart. This despite the fact that I'm using OS 9.2 with 385 MB
> of built-in memory, plus 800 virtual memory. I've allocated 600 MB to the
> application and have tried this with virtual memory turned off and on. My
> data file is 276k, and the 75 pictures I want to display are 3MB maximum.
> I've tried using "insert preferred pictures" in the chart set-up and I've
> tried setting the "Select all objects", then "Put preferred pictures in
> box" menu option. The techies in my office have been unsuccessful in
> solving this problem; they say I have plenty of RAM. I'm starting to get
> very nervous, since I should be sending my chart off to be printed on CAD
> for a family reunion in May! I would sincerely appreciate any help you
> could give me.
Beth,
I'm Apple distributor in Paraguay... When I had the same problem, I
took the file and I installed it in a Double Processor G4 in our
Showroom, with 1GB real RAM... Same as you. Its some kind of bug... And
if it apopears something, its some kind of garbage... it isn't ? I was
more than nervous...
But with OS X this was inmediately solved. If you are not ready still
to migrate, try with a friend's machine with OS X or an Apple dealer
that could help you.
If you dont get it, I'll be glad to process your archive and resend to
you in jpg or pict, or upload to the web in order you can download
when you want. Then, you can work more over it in Photoshop, if you
desire. Any signage shop will also print it without problem:
http://www.martin.romano.org/printingthetree.jpg
Best regards,
Martin Romano Garcia
Asuncion, Paraguay
E: martin@xxxxxx_org
W: http://www.martin.romano.org
W: http://www.bigmanzana.com
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Date: April 29, 2004
From: ChrgrHorse
Subject: iSight to copy documents????
Do I recall that there was a posting about using an iSight with a portable
Mac to copy/save documents? How was that done?
Thanks,
Hal
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Date: April 29, 2004
From: Larry Preuss
Subject: Re: AGFA snapscan
Jan Joynt <joyntcomltd@xxxx_ca> wrote:
> I have a AGFA Snap Scan 1212 USB version [flat bed]. I have a new
> computer and have upgraded to OSX and would like to upgrade my scanner
> as well. Is there anyone that might know if this is a possibilty? I
> have been to the AGFA site and can't locate the information that I
> need.
> I am preserving 3 very old letters, from December 0f 1892 and would
> like to use the options that OS X has rather than use my old Classic
> version.
If yours is a SnapScan 1212 U you will find your OSX driver at
http://www.agfa.com/digicam_scanner_drivers/scanner/snapscan_1212u/
Larry Preuss
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Date: April 29, 2004
From: Tom Lundeen
Subject: Re: AGFA snapscan
on 4/29/04 4:06 PM, J. Joynt at joyntcomltd@xxxx_ca wrote:
> I have a AGFA Snap Scan 1212 USB version [flat bed]. I have a new
> computer and have upgraded to OSX and would like to upgrade my scanner
> as well. Is there anyone that might know if this is a possibilty? I
> have been to the AGFA site and can't locate the information that I
> need.
> I am preserving 3 very old letters, from December 0f 1892 and would
> like to use the options that OS X has rather than use my old Classic
> version.
Jan:
While I cannot speak for the Agfa software that came with the scanner, I can
tell you that the scanner can work with OSX. My wife has one that she uses
occasionally (she inherited it when I bought a better one).
We use Hamrick Software's VueScan for scanning -- it doesn't have some of
the eye candy offered by the OEMs, but it's solid and constantly evolving
(seems like an update comes out nearly every week). VueScan supports the
Agfa 1212U, and I can verify that it does.
VueScan works with the scanner, but won't win any awards for speed or
intuitive interface. It may be the only solution for scanners which would
otherwise not work with OSX. Speed and intuitiveness are nice, but primarily
it's gotta work with your scanner!
VueScan is not free. The price is very reasonable however. You can check it
out at:
http://www.hamrick.com/
The usual disclaimers apply -- I'm just a customer (not quite a satisfied
customer).
Tom Lundeen
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Date: April 29, 2004
From: J. Joynt
Subject: AGFA Snap Scan1212
I sent out a 'help' to RUG this afternoon and within a couple of hours
I had about 5 replies with help on how I could upgrade my scanner
[flatbed] to work with my new OS X system. I sent my email at about
1:45, it was posted in the Reunion digest at 3:10 and my first reply
came in at around 4 p.m.. Amazing!! Mike Finn was the first one in and
that was the one that had the answer for me. I am so grateful for so
many things that this Reunion genealogy software is doing for us.
Can I upgrade my printer Epson 740 Stylus in a similar manner, it also
works with the new system but I know there are a few things that I am
missing in OS X for printing. Mainly checking the level of the ink...
Just wanted to send a BIG thank you to the discussion group and the
endless knowledge that is exchanged through cyber space!
Jan Joynt
Calgary
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Date: April 30, 2004
From: Peter DeAth
Subject: Scanning Glass Plates
Hello All
Has anyone had experience of using a flatbed to scan old glass
photographic plates? I have acquired several 80-90 year old plates in
various states of distress (emulsion lifted, dirty etc), and want to
digitize them and attempt repair with Photoshop Elements.
I have an G4 iMac with plenty of RAM, and an HP USB Scanjet 3570c,
running on Panther. The method I have tried is to put the emulsion
side down on the scanner glass and a sheet of white paper between the
lid and the plate. I scanned from 200 dpi and up, but the preview
results are either too dark or washed out and no amount of adjustment
of the saved TIFF improves the scan. I have scanned in grayscale and
tried inverting, but no joy. The software is the standard HP for the
3570c
Some time ago, I had some success with a Astra SCSI scanner on these
plates, and the results are in my Reunion family file, so maybe it's
just that the HP scanner is inferior.
I've Googled for some guidance but to no avail.
Any suggestions welcome
Regards
Peter DeAth (East of London FHS 00037)
peterde1@xxx_com
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Date: April 30, 2004
From: Jim Merwin
Subject: Re: Agfa SnapScan
The drivers for the Agfa SnapScan 1212u (both OS X and Classic) can be
downloaded from this web page:
http://www.agfa.com/digicam_scanner_drivers/scanner/snapscan_1212u/
--
http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail
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Date: April 30, 2004
From: Chuck Mathews
Subject: Agfa snapscan
Jan Joynt <joyntcomltd@xxxx_ca> wrote:
> I have a AGFA Snap Scan 1212 USB version [flat bed]. I have a new
> computer and have upgraded to OSX and would like to upgrade my scanner
> as well. Is there anyone that might know if this is a possibilty? I
> have been to the AGFA site and can't locate the information that I
> need.
> I am preserving 3 very old letters, from December 0f 1892 and would
> like to use the options that OS X has rather than use my old Classic
> version.
I moved to OSX when Jaguar came out and also have an AGFA Snap Scan 1212
USB scanner which I upgraded to the OSX driver. Even though AGFA has
gotten out of the scanner business, the drivers are still available for
download.
Try this url
http://www.agfa.com/digicam_scanner_drivers/scanner/snapscan_1212u/
I hope this helps.
Chuck Mathews
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Date: April 30, 2004
From: Robin Poupore
Subject: Updating your reunion file on Mac.com
Hi,
I have web cards file on my Mac.com public folder. I have updates to my
genealogy web cards and want to change it out for a new family web card
page. When I go to try to put the old family web cards in the trash in
says it cannot because because the "author is unknown"? I want to trash
that copy and put the new copy in the public folder.
Can someone help me please?
Thanks,
Robin
------------------------------
Date: April 30, 2004
From: Carolyn Strecker
Subject: Password Protection
Recently there was a discussion here about the possibility of identity theft
from published web pages. It didn't quite answer my question, which is as
follows:
I have just published my web family cards on .Mac. For now I only want a few
members of the family to be able to look at it so they might see what I'm
missing and help me correct errors. For this reason I did not enable privacy
filtering. I do require a password to access the site. My site is terribly
incomplete and derivative so far, therefore I would not like any search
engine to direct outside people to it.
Do you know if the password prevents search engines from finding my site,
and whether it would prevent access by someone who got sent to an internal
page of the site by a search engine.
I have been reading Reunion Talk Digest for a long time and really
appreciate the thoughtful answers and discussions I find here.
Carolyn Yearick Strecker
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Date: April 30, 2004
From: DAVO
Subject: Re: Scanning Glass Plates
On Apr 30, 2004, at 2:29 PM, Peter DeAth wrote:
> Has anyone had experience of using a flatbed to scan old glass
> photographic plates? I have acquired several 80-90 year old plates in
> various states of distress (emulsion lifted, dirty etc), and want to
> digitize them and attempt repair with Photoshop Elements.
>
> I have an G4 iMac with plenty of RAM, and an HP USB Scanjet 3570c,
> running on Panther. The method I have tried is to put the emulsion
> side down on the scanner glass and a sheet of white paper between the
> lid and the plate. I scanned from 200 dpi and up, but the preview
> results are either too dark or washed out and no amount of adjustment
> of the saved TIFF improves the scan. I have scanned in grayscale and
> tried inverting, but no joy. The software is the standard HP for the
> 3570c
> Some time ago, I had some success with a Astra SCSI scanner on these
> plates, and the results are in my Reunion family file, so maybe it's
> just that the HP scanner is inferior.
> I've Googled for some guidance but to no avail.
> Any suggestions welcome
I have scanned many glass plates with both Microtech and Epson
scanners. However, the scanners were in transparency/negative mode for
the scans (the scanner light has to illuminate through the plate - not
reflect off the surface). I don't believe you will get satisfactory
results trying to scan negatives in reflective mode on the usual
flatbed scanner. At least it never worked for me.
Sprucing up old photos in Photoshop works wonder on them. I have an
album taken from glass plate negatives (H.H. Koonce Album) on my home
page where more family members have an opportunity to peruse the
archive I possess. You can look at them if you wish by clicking on the
link below.
David C. Ochsner
Bend, OR
Visit My Home Page at: <http://homepage.mac.com/doxner/>
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Date: April 30, 2004
From: Cora Martin
Subject: Re: Scanning Glass Plates
Peter DeAth <peterde1@xxx_com> wrote:
> Has anyone had experience of using a flatbed to scan old glass
> photographic plates? I have acquired several 80-90 year old plates in
> various states of distress (emulsion lifted, dirty etc), and want to
> digitize them and attempt repair with Photoshop Elements.
>
> I have an G4 iMac with plenty of RAM, and an HP USB Scanjet 3570c,
> running on Panther. The method I have tried is to put the emulsion
> side down on the scanner glass and a sheet of white paper between the
> lid and the plate. I scanned from 200 dpi and up, but the preview
> results are either too dark or washed out and no amount of adjustment
> of the saved TIFF improves the scan. I have scanned in grayscale and
> tried inverting, but no joy. The software is the standard HP for the
> 3570c
Peter,
I don't know if the will work with your glass plates, but I have some
negatives close to 90 years old with the emulsion gone or spotty. I had no
luck scanning them until I set the scanner to scan a transparency. Voila!
I got a really good scan with the emulsion gone and the ones that were
spotty required a lot of work in my software to fix them up to be
presentable. It has been a while since I did it, but as I recall you have to
invert them. You might give it a try.
--
Cora Martin
cmartin@xxxxxxx_net
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Date: April 30, 2004
From: Anita Hill
Subject: Re: Scanning Glass Plates
Peter DeAth wrote:
> Has anyone had experience of using a flatbed to scan old glass
> photographic plates? I have acquired several 80-90 year old plates in
> various states of distress (emulsion lifted, dirty etc), and want to
> digitize them and attempt repair with Photoshop Elements.
I think perhaps you need a transparency attachment that shines light
through the plate. I do not know if your model of scanner includes one,
or has one available.
Anita
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Date: April 30, 2004
From: Bill Williams
Subject: Re: Census Enumeration District maps
In Digest 4/28 4/28/04 5:29 PM, the person identified as dshap@xxxxx_edu
hunted and pecked out the following:
> I want to obtain Census ED maps for the 1900, 1910 (if available), 1920,
> & 1930 US Censuses in the District of Columbia (Washington DC). NARA says
> they're available at the NARA office in College Park MD, but when I
> phoned their number (1-866-272-6272) and went through the options twice,
> I was connected eventually to someone who said she did not know if they
> were available to the public, yet NARA's main office in downtown DC says
> they are very much available for sale.
>
> Assuming someone in the large, able Reunion discussion group knows how
> to do this, I'd be grateful for help. Of particular interest would be
> how to find out what specific item numbers these maps have if they are
> for sale, and where one finds that out.
The maps are available, since NARA says so, but you may need to go to the
main office to find someone who know how to access them. Chances are they
are in either printed form or microfiche. Typically for a given location
(city or county) there will be a "location map" showing where the EDs
are, and then a map/maps for smaller areas showing details like roads,
railroads, streets, etc.
Selah!
BWms
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